I'm not blaming the technology. In fact, I never said that at all! Just the misuse of it.
-----Original Message----- From: Crownhaven [mailto:crownha...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:27 PM To: wn3...@verizon.net Cc: jjreis...@alum.mit.edu; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Up We can't blame skimmer for these problems. It might exacerbate them but the individual operator is at fault. Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: > > The automated posts from several stations, such as W3LPL, are using > their Skimmer setups to automatically post spots to the RBN and the > Cluster based on CQ calls received. > > I believe the software in use is designed to pick up the call, but not > neccesarily other information. > > Which proves that the astute amateur will LISTEN first BEFORE > transmitting REGARDLESS of what a cluster or RBN spot says. > > Some of our less experienced brethern haven't figured that out yet. > And some of them never will. > > 73 > > > On 10/25/11, Crownhaven<crownha...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Hi Jim.....best explanation so far. I wondered why the split info > wasn't posted but I guess it is skimmer????? Don't know much about it. > > Steve, N4JQQ > > Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven > <crownha...@bellsouth.net <mailto:crownha...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: > > > > > >> Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there > who are > >> using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??????? I can't think > of any > >> other explanation. "Up" isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just > not know > >> how to use their radios?????? > >> > > > > I contend that it's the packet spots (just DX call and frequency) and > > nothing else. People blindly go to them and if they hear the DX, just > > start calling. W3LPL spots compound this problem because they *never* > > mention split operation. Here's an albeit pathological case from TX7M > > today - only 2/5 spots mention split frequency operation: > > > > SP7CXV 18077.8 TX7M lsn up-3 > > 1607 25 Oct > > LX1DA 18077.7 TX7M QRM by F-Nino F6AML > > 1603 25 Oct > > IK6JOT 18077.0 TX7M QRMER VIGLIACCHI !!!!!!!!!!!! > > 1602 25 Oct > > SV2BOH 18077.7 TX7M over than qrm tks > > 1558 25 Oct > > OM3SX-@ 18077.7 TX7M up1 > > 1551 25 Oct > > > > Also, many DX stations working a pileup rarely sign their call or > > mention "UP" between QSOs. TX7M was different in this regard, I heard > > one op send "TU UP" after each QSO. > > > > People forget they have VFOs. If they just tuned up the band a > > *little* before starting to call, they'd hear the pileup! > > > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to > > imail...@njdxa.org <mailto:imail...@njdxa.org> > > In the message body put either > > unsubscribe dx-chat > > or > > subscribe dx-chat > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > <http://njdxa.org/> > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to > > imail...@njdxa.org > > In the message body put either > > unsubscribe dx-chat > > or > > subscribe dx-chat > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -----------------------------------------------------------
