All of which is further complicated by the fact that unless instructed otherwise, the ARRL will give you credit for all Q's on a multiple-Q card. DX4WIN, of course, does not "know" that the card is multiple-Q.
Early last month I submitted a total of 1,400 cards or so and can hardly wait for the amount of work it will take to get the ARRL totals to match mine. As for those who might think that Logbook of the World is going to make this easier -- I doubt it. There are issues regarding integration with the DX4WIN software, operation from multiple locations, and whether or not there is wide participation. Mike WA0SXV -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane A Calvin Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 09:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Award Submission problem A couple of clarifications: 1. DX4WIN only credits if you request that credit to happen by turning on or off the valid bands to match (or separate award). So, if you submit your first DXCC MIXED, with 105 cards, those QSO's will be credited in DX4WIN *only* for Mixed. Not for Mode or Band, which the ARRL will automatically credit you for towards those awards. This is what I'm attempting to describe. 2. Taking cards to hamfests places a limit of something like120 cards for your submission. This causes one to start eliminating categories to trim the list. So, let's say I want to trim my list by not submitting for the 40m band category, and I turn that off in DX4WIN. The logic will cause any submissions that were purely for 40m band to be eliminated. However, a new mode QSL that happens to be on 40m will be submitted, and the ARRL will credit it for both mode and 40m band credit. However, DX4WIN will not credit it for 40m. Giving credit vs. what you are submitting for are two different concepts, and that is where DX4WIN errs. This is the kind of thing I'm describing. 3. Agreed, ARRL will not give you an award for anything with less than 100 countries, however, that QSO is credited toward the award whether you have applied for it or not (re: the example above). 4. And, yes, the ARRL has not always taken this approach, however they have consistently since I've been submitting cards, which started in 1990 or '91. So, for old timers, they still need to do that initial reconcile. Sorry to belabor this, but I hope it clears up what I'm trying to say. The last time I spoke to him about it, Paul agreed it did not work as the ARRL describes they do the crediting, but was adamant he was not going change it because of how he reads the rules. I like the program in almost all other respects, but this part always causes me more grief than I like! 73, Duane
