Dear Chano, That is exactly what n4dsp wants you to believe. He wrote many messages today stating that interfacing to LoTW should be fully automated and that I should sell the company.
There will be new versions in the future, but I want to figure out what new features make sense in terms of effort, interest of the users but most importantly the support required. --Paul, KK4HD On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 7:16 PM, CHANO - EA8OG <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand in this last email that DX4WIN died about updates, what you > have is what you get. is that, please clearly confirm this. thanks > > Sebastián Gámez Hernández > E A 8 O G > 73´S > > > 2014/1/5 n4dsp <[email protected]> > > > With due respect to all little change is going to occur which I am sorry > > to say. > > We have FINALLY heard from Paul and aware of the direction DX4WIN is > > taking. > > Well boys I have supported Paul and DX4WIN speaking to others informing > > them what a great dx logging program it is and quite frankly I cannot do > > that > > any longer especially after what Paul had to say today. Therefore I > > downloaded > > and installed LOGGER 32 and like all new programs there is quite a > > learning curve > > but I will be much further ahead in another month than I will be with > > DX4WIN > > five years from now. Have been loyal to DX4WIN but it's over. Some will > be > > happy there will no longer see any more posts from n4dsp! LOL. Hate to > see > > such a great dx logging program coming to it's end and it's troublesome. > > Made the ARRL Honor Roll with this program from my first contact to #334. > > > > Paul,,,,,SELL THE COMPANY. > > > > Respectfully, > > john / n4dsp > > > > > > of > > > > On 1/5/2014 5:04 PM, Lou Dietrich wrote: > > > >> All, > >> > >> We have FINALLY heard from Paul....that is a good thing....and it sounds > >> like he has a portion of our wish list. > >> > >> A few comments though.... > >> > >> 1. Did you see any inclination or willingness to incorporate them into > >> DX4WIN? > >> 2. Although it is unlikely he would have every rig produced, it should > be > >> noted that I, for one, attempted to develop a rig file for the > >> FT3000...sent many messages to him for assistance...and never heard > back. I > >> had a Yaesu 'demo' FT3000 shipped to me and it sat here for months > awaiting > >> assistance and nothing...this was a while after his personal > move....yes, > >> the rig files are rather basic but how DX4WIN handles these files are > hard > >> coded and cannot be user defined or changed. I have quite a bit of > >> documentation in this issue....as do others. We are/ were willing to > work > >> with him but the effort hasn't been reciprocal. > >> 3. LOTW isn't going away...or GlobalQsl...or EQSL....incorporating easy > >> interface to these systems seeming would be a selling point for DX4WIN. > >> Without them, DX4WIN is severely lacking. > >> 4. As in number 3, QRZ.Com is here to stay...and most of your users > >> access it routinely. > >> > >> Paul, this isn't an attack on you...and regrettably there has been some > >> severe tone between a few users...hopefully, we can get back on a more > >> positive, productive track. > >> > >> However, this thread is an indication of the frustration of your loyal, > >> paid users. We want DX4WIN to succeed but there needs to be some > indication > >> that DX4WIN is alive and well...and will be supported and improved. > >> > >> Yes... we could all move to a different platform ...we have a number of > >> other choices...but we have been sticking with DX4WIN but without finite > >> information from you, Paul, we've been in an informational vacuum. Paul, > >> incorporating user input and enhancing DX4WIN appears to be a win/win > >> situation. We look forward for more information as to the direction and > >> future of DX4WIN. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Lou N2TU > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/5/2014 3:44 PM, Charlie Cunningham wrote: > >> > >>> Amen! > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:dx4win-bounces@ > >>> mailman.qth.net] > >>> On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp > >>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 3:24 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updates on a more positive note! > >>> > >>> Well said, Paul ! > >>> > >>> 73! > >>> > >>> Ken Kopp - K0PP > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Paul van der Eijk > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Thank you Bill for a civil restart of this discussion! > >>>> > >>>> We are expecting guests in a little while, so let me be brief: > >>>> > >>>> 1. I read the reflector > >>>> > >>>> 2. Folks who want to use DXLab please do so! > >>>> > >>>> 3. When I saw the enormous of email traffic a few month ago when LoTW > >>>> had > >>>> problems I realized it was much better to have a clear delineation > >>>> between > >>>> DX4WIN and LoTW. Is saving a few mouse clicks worth my effort and > >>>> support > >>>> time afterwards? > >>>> > >>>> 4. I wrote a pretty cool regular expression to retrieve the QRZ info, > >>>> but > >>>> also realized that the page was constructed to make this difficult for > >>>> commercial reasons. Have to rethink that. > >>>> > >>>> 5. The user has the same tools as I have to construct a radio file > >>>> because > >>>> it is part of DX4WIN. Even debugging the interface is part of it. So > if > >>>> > >>> YOU > >>> > >>>> have a radio that is not supported by the program, you stand a much > >>>> better > >>>> chance to get a working interface going than I can without that radio. > >>>> (There are still users who believe I have every radio ever made in my > >>>> shack!) > >>>> > >>>> 6. OmniRig: Has evaluated to a powerful system, using text files to > >>>> describe the interface similar to what DX4WIN does. The problem for me > >>>> is > >>>> that OmniRig is event driven, DX4WIN polls the radio. > >>>> > >>>> 7. Multiple rotators: Should this be multiple serial ports and you > >>>> select > >>>> the rotator or something smarter (band, or band segment driven with > >>>> possible override). How may users have multiple rotators? > >>>> > >>>> 8. I have a pretty long list of things to do, unfortunately it does > not > >>>> indicate when / how to do this. > >>>> > >>>> Happy New Year! > >>>> > >>>> --Paul, KK4HD > >>>> > >>>> PS I hope we can keep these discussions civilized. The history of this > >>>> reflector goes back many years, and today seems to be the first time > >>>> > >>> things > >>> > >>>> are getting slightly out of hand. Please avoid personal attacks. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, WILLIAM <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I have always considered myself as a loyal and satisfied user of > >>>>> DX4WIN! > >>>>> > >>>> I > >>>> > >>>>> have probably been responsible for 25 or more fellow DXers choosing > >>>>> > >>>> DX4WIN > >>>> > >>>>> over other possible logging programs. I dread the thought of ever > >>>>> > >>>> changing > >>>> > >>>>> to some other new method of maintaining the heart of my DX History. > >>>>> With > >>>>> that being said I have a hard time understanding how the good and bad > >>>>> feedback that has been offered by many long time DX4win supporters > has > >>>>> deteriorated to the level of personal attacks against each other. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think my biggest frustration & disappointment in regard to DX4win > was > >>>>> best stated by Kostas SV1DPI when he said: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> " The bad thing for me (worst than not updating) is that Paul, the > >>>>> > >>>> author > >>> > >>>> of the program, does not say to us his thoughts for all these. I would > >>>>> like to hear his opinion, even it is something like "dx4win is my > last > >>>>> priority and I don't think I will update it the next 30 years"(I hope > >>>>> not saying it)..." > >>>>> > >>>>> There may be many good reasons for Paul not taking update action, BUT > >>>>> in > >>>>> my opinion absolutely NO reason for not communicating with his > >>>>> > >>>> customers! > >>> > >>>> He owes us that! > >>>>> > >>>>> My personal wish list still has the QRZ.com XML interface update near > >>>>> > >>>> the > >>> > >>>> top. > >>>>> > >>>>> Still Hoping! > >>>>> > >>>>> 73 > >>>>> Bill N4NX > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> > >>>>> From: "Lou Dietrich" <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: "DX4WIN Reflector" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 12:23:06 PM > >>>>> Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updates > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To: Ernie <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Ernie and Group, > >>>>> > >>>>> I run HDSDR and DX4WIN all the time...simply use LPB2, a free > software > >>>>> offered by Larry N8LP....You can have HDSDR, DX4WIN, N1MM and > anything > >>>>> else you want to linked to your rig....it works great... > >>>>> > >>>>> The rest of your post can be added to our joint 'wish list'....Hi > >>>>> Hi...along with updated rig files or movement to OmniRig...along with > >>>>> an > >>>>> update Submission Sheet showing LOTW, Hard QSL or EQSL (EQSL yuck!, > >>>>> sorry, editorial comment!) > >>>>> > >>>>> Even the Report Generator is missing simple drop down indicators > under > >>>>> Report/ Action, Modes and Bands, showing different selections. This > was > >>>>> reported and not acted upon by Paul many versions ago...multiple > rotor > >>>>> controls...two (or more) telnet sessions...WWV numbers on the Map > >>>>> Screen > >>>>> or on top of the QSO windows...simple integration of digital > programs, > >>>>> MMTTY/2Tone, better PSK31 integration... > >>>>> > >>>>> DX4WIN is a remarkably simple, stable but outdated piece of software. > >>>>> Paul did a great job with it many years ago but alas, now it just > >>>>> flounders in limbo with little support or enhancement from him. If it > >>>>> wasn't for Jim AD1C's tremendous support, I would have moved off this > >>>>> archaic platform a long time ago. There is little or no reason why > >>>>> AD1C's enhancements were not embraced, supported and incorporated by > >>>>> > >>>> Paul. > >>>> > >>>>> We, dear fellow DX4WIN users, are 'caught' in an trap...move off to > >>>>> another and abandon what we have learned ...or stick with DX4WIN and > >>>>> hope someone will get this platform back on the track. > >>>>> > >>>>> Flaming each other does little or nothing to enhance or move this > topic > >>>>> forward. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73/ Regards.... > >>>>> > >>>>> Lou N2TU > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 1/5/2014 10:24 AM, Ernie wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Important to me: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to > my > >>>>>> rig at the same time. > >>>>>> 2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself > >>>>>> 3. Easy way to add mode names myself > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ernie W8EH > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> DX4WIN logging software > >>>> Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD > >>>> BrookHill Data Systems LLC > >>>> http://www.dx4win.com > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> > >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> DX4WIN mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> > >>> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> DX4WIN mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > DX4WIN mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DX4WIN logging software Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD BrookHill Data Systems LLC http://www.dx4win.com ______________________________________________________________ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
