Very, very true. I've learned this from experience myself! Carl N8VZ
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Neal Campbell <[email protected]> wrote: > For those doing an upgrade from Vista to Win7 or (worse) using > System Mover > from Laplink to migrate from XP to Win7, I have sad news: it just > doesn't > work and you will end up with many hours of problems like this > before you > decide to start over, back up everything, format the drive and do a > fresh > install. > > I have already had to do to two machines, that I stupidly ignored > advice > like that in this email, and went ahead. > > The main problem with the Vista upgrade is that the registry is subtly > messed up with things pointing to the wrong spot or nowhere. The > System > Mover program from Laplink is so messed up that its a slow form of > registry > deconstruction. Its like merging registries from two different > machines into > one and everything is fouled up. > > Note that in both cases I thought that the upgrades were successful > for te > first day or so, then things started not working. > > To summarize: If you want to save yourself a world of pain (I > forget what > movie that came from), backup your system, format your drive and > install > win7, unless you bought the upgrade version. In that case, pop the > dvd in > while you are in your old Os, start the installed and when it > reboots and > asks for the install location, delete the old partition, create a > new one, > let win7's installer format it and then reinstall all your programs > after > win7 is up and running. > > I know this sounds like a lot of work (and it is) but blame MS, not > me. If > you have upgraded a Mac system in the p ast 4 years, you never > haveto do > this type of stuff! > > 73 > > > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > (540) 242 0911 > > Amateur Radio: K3NC > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] > Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Neal Campbell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Was this an "upgrade" installed version of Win7 versus a fresh >> install by >> any chance? >> >> >> Neal Campbell >> Abroham Neal Software >> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com >> (540) 242 0911 >> >> Amateur Radio: K3NC >> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ >> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] >> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jack <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In DXbase 2007, the code expects that refdata.mdb is located in >>> the same >>> folder as the program executable. It expects that the refdata.mdb >>> has >>> full >>> read/write permission. If the refdata.mdb was copied from a >>> backup CD, >>> there is a chance the file properties are set to readonly which >>> would be a >>> problem and require that the user modify properties for read/ >>> write. It >>> expects that it is the correct version of refdata.mdb for the >>> version of >>> the >>> program being run... in other words, the refdata.mdb is not a copy >>> from >>> some >>> other version of DXbase. >>> >>> The only place that the C:\Program Files\Scientific Solutions >>> \DXbase 2007 >>> path is coded is in the installation process and it is the default >>> path >>> unless the user changes to something else. There is nothing in >>> DXbase >>> 2007 >>> itself that has the path hard coded. I'm betting that Win7 didn't >>> like >>> everything about the installation process or some such thing... >>> But in any >>> case, the solution to the issue originally reported will come from >>> figuring >>> out how to set permissions on the DXbase files so that Win7 allows >>> them to >>> be opened without the prompts.. I don't think there is anything in >>> DXbase >>> itself that is going to solve this one. >>> >>> Regards >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Dougherty" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'Jack'" <[email protected]>; "'Mark O'Brien'" >>> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:05 PM >>> Subject: RE: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm still working with Mark here on this issue. I checked his old >>>> and >>> new >>>> computers and my own system, and there's nothing in any of our >>>> DXBase2007.ini files that references the refdata.mdb file >>>> anywhere. This >>>> is >>>> the [Dir] section of his new installation under Win7 (mine is >>>> simiar): >>>> >>>> [Dir] >>>> CDDRIVE=C >>>> CDTYPE=1 >>>> PGMPATH=C:\DXbase 2007 >>>> SOUNDPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Omsounds >>>> CDPATH= >>>> DATAPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\K2AX.mdb >>>> ORDERPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Default.co >>>> PQSOPATH=C:\DXbase 2007\Pqsodflt.co >>>> PQPROMPT=0 >>>> AUTOCD=1 >>>> MGRCDTYPE=0 >>>> CDON=0 >>>> BUPATH=C:\beta2007\ >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Peter, >>>> W2IRT >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of Jack >>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 4:20 PM >>>> To: Mark O'Brien; [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems >>>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> You might try the following... no promises... but maybe.... >>>> >>>> 1. Make a copy of your dxb2007.ini file from your Windows folder >>>> and >>> save >>>> it for safe keeping just in case... >>>> >>>> 2. Open the dxb2007.ini file in your Windows folder using >>>> notepad and >>>> look >>>> for the Directory section of the INI file. See if the entry for >>>> refdata.mdb >>>> >>>> is showing the wrong path as evidenced by the message you are >>>> getting... >>>> if >>>> so, change the entry to agree with the same path for your QSO >>>> database >>>> path. >>>> >>>> I don't know exactly what in the world Windows does in Vista/Win7 >>>> OS's, >>>> but >>>> somehow it seems that it clones a copy of the mdb file and runs >>>> from >>> some >>>> other location other than where DXbase installs it. Perhaps this >>>> will >>>> help >>>> but if it screws things up, then just copy the "copy" from step 1 >>>> above >>>> back >>>> >>>> so you can get to where you started. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mark O'Brien" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:40 PM >>>> Subject: [Dxbase] New Win7/32 user problems >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm still having some troubles getting DX Base 2007 to function >>>>> under >>>>> Win7/32-bit. I've got Peter, W2IRT to help a bit, and we got as >>>>> far as >>>>> setting up the app and moving the databases over, but the >>>>> problem is >>>>> launching DX Base now. >>>>> >>>>> I have the app installed to C:\DXBase 2007. >>>>> >>>>> I can do it one of two ways: >>>>> 1) Run as administrator and get the UAC prompt every time I go >>>>> to run >>> it. >>>>> Say yes and it runns as normal. >>>>> 2) Try to start NOT as administrator and it fails. It seems >>>>> something's >>>>> hard-coded in there to look for files in C:\Program Files >>>>> \Scientific >>>>> Solutions\DX Base 2007. The error I get when I have it set to >>>>> non-administrator mode is "Couldn't find file 'C:\Program >>>>> Files\Scientific >>>>> Solutions\DXbase 2007\refdata.mdb.' >>>>> >>>>> What can I do to keep UAC functional on the computer but not >>>>> have DX >>> Base >>>>> nag for it on DX Base startup? >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Dxbase mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/ >>>>> donate.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Dxbase mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Dxbase mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
