>First of all I don't know where you guys heard of this 18 MB VM and no
Java
        >support in IE. I personally hate Java as a client side language (and in
        >general too) and I also know from recent experience that you can't trust
        >people to allow java on their systems. So I agree there needs to be
another
        >way I personally think that a hidden frame is the best way to go.
        8an

I agree with you, though Oracle seems to disagree, though their so called
Oracle
Web Server is really Apache running TomCat :)

Hidden frame is ok, as long as you don't mind a 5 pixel frame on Netscape 4,
because
maybe I'm wrong, but I don't seem to be able to hide completely a frame in
Netscape...

NunoF




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