On 11 Jun, John R Sheets shouted:
-> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-> [ ... ]
-> > 0.14 is a new kettel of fish. Live with it. Hopefulyl it
-> > will become the best WM money can't buy. We dont know. We care what
-> > users think - and we try. We arn't god - we arne't perfect - we make
-> > mistakes - but we try and minimise them - please help us. give us
-> > SENSIBLE suggestions - and sugest them AFTEr resarching their
-> > possabilites.. dont jsut say "i want semi-transparent windows" - look
-> > at the facts - at how X works.. and what woudl be needed to impliment
-> > such a thing.. then and only then if it seesm feasible - suggest it. If
-> > theres a bug.. PLEASe dont jsut say "bah E sux.. it died" - PLEASe
-> > HELP. Run E under gdb - examine backtraces - variable etc.. at leats
-> > try and narrow down the search and help us find them. I've been doing
-> > this non-stop thru E 0.14's development.. hunting these down wherever I
-> > can - I might have missed some. Please help us find them and remove
-> > them. After 0.14 We want a development team - not just people talkign
-> > but serious peopel who want to actualy put a hand in on shapeign their
-> > desktop. We want people to help make releases and make them work on all
-> > platforms. We want people to help find mugs - we ant people to help
-> > write code and features... thus these core peolpe will get CVS write
-> > access. If you are SERIOUS abotu this - and you think you can work in a
-> > team - please contact me or mandrake when we realease 0.14. We want to
-> > co-ordinate and get things moving. Oneday E may be your main desktop
-> > feature. If you can code and want a say in it.. speak up.
->
-> By all means, count me in! I stumbled onto E just after 13.x was
-> expunged from existance, and managed to snatch up the E14 demo
-> before it too disappeared (or did it?...so hard to keep all the
-> recent releases and un-releases straight, between E & gnome).
I nuked it... :) it was around long enough... :) people can wait for
the full 0.14 now.. :)
-> Incidentally, the code for the E14 demo looks very clean &
-> modular. I have no idea what the code for E13.x looked like, but
-> I have a feeling there's no comparison. So, when the time comes,
-> put my name in the hat.
->
-> A couple quick questions....what's the going rate on
-> /*comments*/? I don't expect much in an open-source demo, but
-> how much energy are you guys going to expend towards commenting
-> up the release version?
Comments? whats that? who needs them? bah! :) I dont think i'm gonan
start putting comments in.. 1. I dont have the time 2. if you can coe
you knwo what the code does just by reading it. 3. we're much mroe
concerned with features, stability and speed/ efficience than comments
right now.. (which clutter up the code an dmake it harder to read when
u're bsuy debugging it and heavily working on it - alos you put a
comment in - and byt he time u've finidhed with the code u need to
change the comment cause it no longer applies).
-> Also, with the sliding desktops, are there plans to have them
-> slide from different directions? Left-to-right would be cool.
-> Another thing I noticed is that if you have, say, three desktops
-> partially open, like this:
actually that was possible alreday int eh snapshot.. u had to compiel
the dmeo fot adiffrent dragdir (values 0-3 used) :) what we have here
in CVs can change dir ont he fly (hit F3 to change it) it can also
change the orderign of the buttons ont he dragbar ont he fly (kep
hitting F4) :)
-> -----------
-> | A
-> -----------
-> | B
-> |
-> |
-> -----------
-> | C
-> ===========
->
-> (C is on top) If you bring B to the foreground (i.e. click on
-> the up-arrow), C becomes unreachable unless you drag B waaayyyy
-> down below C. Well, I guess that's not such a horrible thing,
-> unless you have 4-8 desktops hanging around back there. My point
-> is, it'd be nice to have an X-Ray mode that would temporarily
-> float the existing (normally hidden) bars to the top (wouldn't
-> need the desktop images). Then you could pick the hidden one you
-> needed, and bring it to the top. Kind of a
-> partially-open-desktop-frame-bar-browser.
hmm possible to do.. :) needot add an "xray mode" grab the pointer,
draw outlines of the desktops - allow dragging of the outlines whilt in
xray mode, then at end of xray mode actually apply the new positionsto
the desktops... :) might do that.. :)
-> Anyway, that's my peace. I've said it.
->
-> John
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