I have already apologized for responding to your lies with less than polite
comments. Have you apologized? I think not. But either way, good luck
with your business.
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:27:26 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
> I heartily agree. I refraim form this type of thing most of the time,
but
> when attacked and called an ashole, it is hard to resist. I have found
most
> of the people I deal with introduced to me frm egold to be great people
to
> work with. That's why I was surprised by the vritriol in the other guy's
> post. I promise to stop this.
>
> John
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card
offer
> you might not noitice
>
>
> >Both of you.
> >
> >I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal
bun
> >fight.
> >
> >None of this will enamour customers to your cause.
> >
> >You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.
> >
> >I suggest you kiss and make up
> >
> >Your customers are watching you
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >Michael Moore
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.gold-today.com
> >Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
> >https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Destiny Worldwide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
> >Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
> >might not noitice
> >
> >
> >>
> >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
> >> we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
> >> deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
> >> ((((((((((((((((((((((((+))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
> you
> >> might not noitice
> >>
> >>
> >> >I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is
full
> >of
> >> >shit. I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have
no
> >> >particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT
IT.
> >> >Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested
in
> >> >this, and I would put it together. This is waht I have done. I
don't
> >> >appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
> >> >themselves. I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not
claim
> it
> >> is
> >> >a high security vehicle. If that is what you want and need, contact
me
> >and
> >> >I'll give you some advice. I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
> accounts
> >> as
> >> >most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds
inthe
> >>
> >>
> >> Excuse me, this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.
If
> >> you can start calling people names, then so can I. I think, though,
if
> >> people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will
see a
> >> big difference. We have spent money and time to develop ours, along
with
> >a
> >> functional database, etc. Yours ....
> >>
> >> >accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
> >> >jurisdiction in which they operate. But the fact is that this
asshole
> >has
> >> >chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking
mine
> >> >with false and misleading comments. I will address these pissant
> >comments
> >> >below:
> >>
> >>
> >> I will answer your points below. I have not attacked anything, just
> >pointed
> >> out the facts. Sorry if this hurts your sales. And since our card is
> >> issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?
> YOU
> >> ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY
CONTRACT
> >> BELONGS TO YOU!
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon
pointed
> >> out
> >> >> what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
> >couple
> >> >> with his.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an
address
> >in
> >> >> Texas to mail the applications. Obviusly, then, the address in
> Belize
> >> is
> >> >a
> >> >> maildrop. What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
> >him,
> >> >they
> >> >> are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.
Your
> >> >> identity is not safe!
> >> >
> >> >The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me
wherever
> I
> >> >may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston. But no
> >> doubt,
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you
> are
> >> on the lam -- er...... on the go all the time. It's is obvious that
this
> >is
> >> a one man show. We, on the other hand, are an established company
with
> >> offices, employees, etc.......
> >>
> >> >there is a possibility of interception. I never claimed this was
some
> >kind
> >> >of safe way to do "money launderying." If that is what you need you
> >might
> >>
> >>
> >> Who said anything about money laundering? That is a viscius ad
homanim
> >> argument and a logical fallacy. People can send orders to a place
where
> >we
> >> really are. Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just
your
> >> word. And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim,
or
> >> just some guy working in his basement in Houston.
> >>
> >> >want to go elsewhere. What I am providing is a convenient way of
giving
> >a
> >> >service. Take it or leave it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, real conventient. And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME! How
> >> convenient for you!
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Same for the bank. If the bank they are ever using rolls over
> and
> >> >rats
> >> >> you out, then you are screwed. The only way to prevent this is if
> the
> >> >bnak
> >> >> does not know who you are.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there. This
bank
> >in
> >> >particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
> >> >jurisdiction. I have been doing business with it and others in this
> >> >jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who
wrote
> >this
> >> >email.
> >> >
> >>
> >> that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank
> >doens't
> >> know who you are, then they CAN'T RAT ON YOU, CAN THEY? Even if the
> >> jurisdiction changes it's laws under OECD or FATF preassure. So, you
> >have
> >> this guy's assurances versus the FACTS!
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> 3. What are his fees for the transfers from egold to the card?
He
> >does
> >> >not
> >> >> disclose this, but our fees are clearly stated on our website. If
> you
> >> >are
> >> >> just transferring from egold to the card, then you will look in
the
> >> >> passthrough category of our fee shcedule, plus add the wire
transfer
> >> >fee,a
> >> >> nd that is it. OUR FEES ARE THE LOWEST I HAVE SEEN FOR THIS
ANYWHERE
> >> >> OFFSHORE! So, when you figure this in, even though our card costs
> >more
> >> >up
> >> >> front, it is actually cheaper in the end if you use it very much.
> >> >
> >> >Currently fees are going to be flat rate $20.00 per transaction,
minimum
> >> >transaction $1,000.00. Of course this is subject to change. The
terms
> >and
> >> >conditions are in the written application, which I did not include in
my
> >> >short little email.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> We have no written application. And we will tansfer any amount, with
no
> >> minimuym, as long as you are willing to pay for the wire transfer.
Then,
> >it
> >> is in YOUR OWN BANK ACCOUNT, not one that belongs to an employee of
his
> >> corporation.
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Don't be fooled. You are categorized as an employee of the
> >company,
> >> >and
> >> >> therefore the company OWNS AND CONTROLS THE CARDS! they can do
> >ANYTHING
> >> >> THEY WANT TO WITH THEM anytime they want and you can't do anything
> >about
> >> >it
> >> >> legally even if they run away with all the money. Our cards
belong
> to
> >> >YOU
> >> >> and are issued directly by the bank, and you can send your funds
> >> yourself
> >> >> direclty to the bank if you desire.
> >> >
> >> >And this is absolute CRAP. Untrue. This is an independent card
> account.
> >> >The "Company" will have no access to the money in that account once
it
> is
> >> >deposited. It is only designated as an "Employee" account as that is
> the
> >> >way most employees are paid in this jurisdiction. Any Payee can be
> >> >designated.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Once again, we have his good word, folks. Just trust in whatever he
> says,
> >> relax and let go........... and let go.......
> >>
> >> Kisssssssss myyyyyyy gollllllld!
> >> >>
> >> >> There are probably other things I could think of, but for lack of
> time
> >I
> >> >> will leave it at that. Our card is TOTALLY ANONYMOUS. The bank
> >doesn't
> >> >> even know who you are, so they can never rat you out even if
ordered
> >to!
> >> >
> >> >I am very suspicious of TOTALLY ANONYMOUS cards and accounts as
almost
> no
> >> >jurisdiction happily tolerates them. What you POSSIBLY are getting
is
> an
> >> >account with a flaky institution that may be run out of somebodies
> >bedroom.
> >>
> >>
> >> I hardly think that the largest bank in this jurisdiction, a very good
> >> jurisdiction, is run out of someone's bedroom, like our friend in
> >> Texas........
> >>
> >>
> >> >That is the way most people get caught. The last time I heard of one
of
> >> >these gigs was a Doctor in San Antonio, Texas who was running an
> >"offshore
> >> >bank" out of his house. When the feds hit him, he sang like a bird
and
> >> >"ratted" out several hundred innocent clients. Or maybe you are
dealing
> >> >with a legitimate bank that has somehow managed to convince the
> >> jurisdiction
> >> >in which it operates that anonymous is ok. There are ways of
"becoming"
> >> >anonymous, and that will work better than an "ANONYMOUS" account,
unless
> >of
> >>
> >>
> >> Why is that? Of course, if you want true anyonimity, you will get a
> >second
> >> passport, but that costs more than most people are willing to spend.
We
> >do
> >> offer them, but we do not advertise this. It's real interesting how
> >logical
> >> criticism can bring a torrent of hate, personal accusations, inuendo,
and
> >> spruious, illogical arguments, isn't it? Maybe he is an IRS agent
posing
> >as
> >> an offshore service provider.... It seems like these pigs aren't very
> >> imaginative either, and can't make logical arguments, just attack
people.
> >I
> >> DID NOT ATTACK YOU OR CALL YOU NAMES IN MY PREVIOUS EMAIL. YOUR
> >GRATUITOUS
> >> INSULTS HAVE BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF!
> >>
> >> >course you are just a criminal looking to do some quick money
> laundering.
> >> >But that is another issue.
> >> >
> >> Oh, so now people who want compelte privacy are money luanderers and
> >> criminals? How CONVENIENT for you! There are other banks in htis
same
> >> jurisdcition that issue anonymous cards, but to my knowledge, this is
the
> >> only one that works internationally. Isn't it funny how this guy
knows
> >such
> >> details about Texas. Almost seems like he is still there. JUST SEND
IN
> >> YOUR APPLICATION....... go ahead, let go......
> >>
> >> It's interesting how he doesn't answer the comments below. I have
> >actually
> >> relocated out of Nazi Land, and am not pretending to be somewhere I am
> >not.
> >> I don't think the same can be said of this guy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, we are located OFFSHORE, so we don't have to release your
> >records
> >> >to
> >> >> ANYONE without an order form the local government here, and THEY
WILL
> >> NOT
> >> >DO
> >> >> SO WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME IN THIS
> >> COUNTRY!
> >> >> Since you do NOT reside in Costa Rica, it is therefore almost
> >IMPOSSIBLE
> >> >for
> >> >> you to have committed a crime here. It takes a long time to get
> such
> >a
> >> >> court order in this country anyway, so you are much safer dealing
> with
> >> us
> >> >> than with someone operating out of Texas in the Nazi States of
> >America,
> >> >> where they can break down their door anytime they want on mere
> >> SUSPICION.
> >> >>
> >> >> Check out our site and see for yourself. Sure, our card is more
> >> expesive
> >> >up
> >> >> front, but the value and savings are realized as you use it!
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> >> Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
> >> >> we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
> >> >> deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
> >> >> ((((((((((((((((((((((((+))))))))))))))))))))))))))
> >>
> >>
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