On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:52 PM, Katz Global Media wrote:
Cyber Squatting was mentioned earlier and that is not relevant here becasue the name was intended for a forum for satellite users to
discuss technology and not registered to sell to 3M.
Gosh, did your customer ever consider satellite-forum.com, or lets-talk-satellite.org, southern-sky.net, or azimuth-chat.net? Did the customer really have to go and tape a sign on his back that says "Kick Me?"
What in fact 3m is doing is reverse cyber squatting all potential and future
domain name registrations. Which i feel is blatently wrong.
OK, I agree with you completely on the reverse cyber squatting charge. I think the Anti Cyber-Squatting Bill that 3M cites is a crock. Domain names SHOULD be like Oklahoma Territory -- rush out, grab a stake, and see what you can make of it. Why shouldn't you be able to snap up 3Mservice.com in the hopes of selling it for thousands of dollars to 3M? Alternatively, why couldn't 3M cut a deal with the domain registries to buy rights to the infinite 3m* set?
I don't think 3M should be able to just swoop in and say "give it up" to anybody who registers a 3m* domain. That's ridiculous. That infinite set of names is not the default property of 3M. However, if you actually USE one of those domains, then maybe there's an argument. So you ought to be able to squat on the name, but perhaps not use it for any purpose other than to sell it to someone else, which may or may not be 3M.
It is my opinion that 3M should be taken to court for this and reverse the whole situation back on them and force them to prove
their case while on the defense.
Especially considering the domain name was never even used yet.
That's right, it wasn't even used! First, I am not a lawyer. But how are you violating a trademark simply by having your name associated with another name in a domain registry database somewhere? You are not USING that name IN TRADE. You're not importing Chinese duct tape and putting "3M Line" on it, for example. Nor are you setting up a web site called "3mservice.com." You're just paying 70 bucks or whatever to register a name.
If anything, why doesn't 3M sue ICANN or whoever for having the temerity to SELL 3m* names in the first place? Aren't the domain registries the ones who are violating the 3M trademark by raking in all this money from illicit sales from the sacrosanct 3m* set?
If they lose such a case it would change a lot of things regarding domains and trademarks and pretty much resolve this discussion in
a clear cut way.
Yeah, sue their asses for "prior restraint" or just plain old cyber-squatting. Stick it to them. Get your lawyers chewing at their throats like a pack of junkyard dogs.
-- Patrick
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