> and this one is for you Robert: > http://www.icann.org/gnso/issue-reports/whois-privacy-report-13may03.htm > Hello Gordon, There is a difference between 'holding in trust' and 'being' a trust. You see, we settled a trust to hold domains for clients. This trust is not related to us other than that it contracted CyberFrontier to set up U2Planet.com and register domain names for it.
So, in essence, WE don't know what the trust does with them or whom they are holding it for. Even if we wanted to disclose details, all we can provide is the contact details for a trust manager. We don't even knoe who the trustee is. As far as I can see, the trust might actually settle a seperate trust for each of the domain names. But that is just a guess. Now, IF that is what is happening, then the trust manager may know the trustee of the first trust, but it is unclear if that trustee is instrumental in settling the other trusts for each domain name. It then gets really complicated when the seperate trusts for each domain name have different trustees themselves. That much to the ICANN rules (guidelines?). Now, in your 3M case, who registered the domain? When you say you are holding it in trust, are you (or your comapny) the holder? If so, then I agree with Patrick's first comment of the thread. Because then you can indeed be forced by law to hand it over. Worse, you can be forced to disclose the identity of the beneficiary. If you however, have settled an actual trust for the domain, are not an officer of the trust and are merely following rules, then the rule that hosts can not be held responsible for what their respective customers use the services for is likely to apply. And, as there is no precedent that suggests otherwise, this 'service provider protection' is likely to extend to domain name registrations (for now). The question would then be, did you or did you not settle a trust, do the paperwork, etc.? It might be a question you might prefer to answer off-list by private mail, though. Lemme know if there is anything I can do. Cheers, Robert. <no sig, but you all know anyway...> --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
