> rhetoric. If spiritual enlightenment *is* the only way to change
> society then that leaves me nowhere. I dont relate to nature
> spiritually (though I guess I do emotionally), I enjoy knowing
> about it - what things are, what they do. 

please dont take this in offense paige, but i think you have a problem if 
you dont relate to nature spiritually. and when you say you do 
emotionally, what does that mean? maybe its just language were tripped up 
on. maybe you dont understand what i (and others) mean when we say 
"spiritual"..i think roxanne did a great job describing hers. do you not 
relate to what she wrote?   -anne

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