Hi, Mary,
You define science as "the human attempt to understand nature". As a social ant
hropologist I would say that science is only one possible attempt to understand
 "nature". God constructing the cosmos with geometric tools can be a valuable
explanation too. I am not trying to disqualify science, not even the sciences o
f nature. I am saying that societies construct "nature". People often  "separat
e", i.e. put things into a special order. People can separate between the villa
ge and the wilderness, between humans and animals (not to forget the most frigh
tening witches who transcend the border between the human and the animal), and
borders are always kind of "sacred", i.e. protected by various taboos. You cann
ot blame the "separating" on patriarchy and christianity. In fact, there are
patriarchal societies living in "sustainability". The destruction of "nature"
we experience right now is the result of a historical relationship, or mode of
production called "capitalism", not the result of "separation".
ciao, Claudia
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul  6 12:29:56 1995
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karen Schmelzkopf)
Subject: re.  Breast Cancer info
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:33:27 EDT

I'm sorry to do this, but I missed the first posting re. breast cancer
and environmental causes.  Could you kindly re-post where the article
was published?  Thanks,  Karen
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul  6 15:54:57 1995
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:52:45 -0400 (EDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: reconceptualizing conflict
In-Reply-To: <A20ZVVGPXP33*/R=DER/R=A1/U=RUSHANAN_A/@MHS>


Hi Al - I understand the reasons why you have been forwarding the 
privately sent messages to the list.  I may even agree that some of the 
messages were quite nasty (this is not to say that I disagree with thier 
contents)  BUT PLEASE...can you let this go, take the points that have 
been offered, perhaps even think about some of them, and let the ecofem 
list move on to bigger and better things?  This is not the Al list.  
Discussions as of late seem to be going in a nice direction.  Please don't 
rehash all of the nonsense again...OK? Thanks.

Anne Henderson
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul  6 20:33:02 1995
Date: Thu,  6 Jul 95 21:48:25 PDT
From: mary hallock morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bioregionalism 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


---------------Included Message---------------
       ***EDITED***
  I have studied a little about bioregionalism, its basic concept, and
application to environmental management (e.g. ecosystem management, 
landscape
management, sustainable landscape and sustainable development, steady 
state
ecnomy). I think the idea is environmentally and ecologicaly very 
reasonable
and very fascinating.  However, I really do not know how it could be 
applied to
economic and socio-cultural situation especially in U.S.
 The basic concept of bioregionalism is that people are bound together in 
a
land or land unit in both ecologically, socially and culturaly.  This is 
very
possible for countries where people have lived the same place for 
generations
and culture and society was evolved from the people who have lived in 
generatio
ns.  
                  ***EDITED***

   Toshihide Hamazaki
----------------------------------------

Have you read Kirkpatrick Sale's Book Dwellers in the Land.  In the book, 
he has an excellent chapter on the history of Regionalism as a precursor 
to Bioregionalism.  He notes that there are many cultural factors that go 
along with the area that you live in here in America.  Some examples from 
my personal life include both the north and "deep" south.  I have noticed 
that in the south, people are much more friendly, more polite.  The food 
is different; the accent is different, etc.  I lived in Alabama for 10 
years, and felt that I assimilated into that culture quite well.  I don't 
think you have to live in an area for years and years and years to be 
truly in touch with it.  You just have to be willing to listen to your 
heart and see the land, the culture, the way of life, for the way it is.  
Where I live now, most people have four or five generations in the 
cemetery; yet, the ecological abuse is ungodly -- overfarming the land, 
treatment of farm animals, chemicals, factory's industrial waste, etc.  
The ethic just isn't there.

Respectfully,

Mary

P.S.  I agree with the fact that Americans are too mobile.  If People 
would stay in places longer, setting roots, bioregionalism would be an 
acceptable idea.  I mean, the tools used by the philosophy to reach praxis 
are really make sense.  But a person can feel the rootedness of the place 
whether they have lived there 5 years or 50 years; it just depends on the 
openmindedness of the person.


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Name: mary hallock morris
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mary hallock morris)
Date: 07/06/95
Time: 21:48:25

Grad student: The McGregor School of Antioch U.
              Yellow Springs, Ohio
majoring in Community and Environmental Ed.           

"In Nature, Nothing Exists Alone."  -- Rachel Carson

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