Just to second what Richard Twine from the University of Essex in
England wrote a few days ago about thanking Stephanie for setting up
the list - and bringing Richard and I together in Hyde Park in London
....its so good to meet up with others interested in ecofeminism, the net
is good, but it was nice to meet Richard in person having talked with
him off list for some time. There aren't many ecofeminist courses ( as
far as I know) in the UK, and I was pleased to hear that Richard was
taking a course in ecofeminism at his university ... unfortunately, it
looks as if the course he was taking will not run next year, and it
seems too as if the one I have been teaching also will not run, so that
is sad .. I am still always interested in swapping ideas about teaching
"ecofeminism", swopping tecahing plans, etc.... there hasn't been so
much on the list about teaching/courses/"ecofeminist pedagogy" ....
anyone got any ideas ....?
...... and on meeting people from the list .... I'm off to Vancouver and
Vancouver Island on Saturday for three months to record life stories of
women involved in the campaign against deforestation in Clayoquot Sound
..... and other related research ... any ecofeminists on the list from
there who'd like to meet up? .... I'll be on the list til Friday ...
and then will have to suspend my membership .. won't have access to
e-mail I think while I'm there ...
...and Richard .. the stuff I promised is in the post today!
Niamh Moore,
Research Centre in Women's Studies,
University of Sussex, UK.
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 19 09:50:03 1996
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:53:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Carolyn Feser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ideas for threads....
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dear Kylie and folks;
I have forgotten just what my point was at the time. I probably should
not have used the analogy of washing hair to make my point. I feel that
I am healthier if I wash my hair. You say not. My head itches a lot if
I don't. OK. I apologise if I have offended anyone. That was not my
intent. I think I just meant that there may be more than one valid
reason for any action or reaction, Including not washing hair.
Peace,
Carolyn
On Tue, 18
Jun 1996, STEFANIE S. RIXECKER wrote:
> This didn't get through the ether initially.
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> Carolyn said..> I wash my hair because I
> >like the way it looks, smells and feels when it is clean. It is something
> >that the society I live in expects of me. I will also remain healthier
> >if I do so. I believe that all these are pretty good reasons for doing
> >it.
>
> But are your assumptions ( about health) correct? Where did you get them?
> They are socially engineered so that you and others will believe this. It
> is in fact not true. You should wash your hands before eating and after
> going to the toilet and have clean food preparation areas and not have
> unprotected sex. But clean hair? Actually my family decided to go to the
> Nullaboor to camp for six weeks and were worried about the health
> implications of being unable to wash. The Doctor said that apart from the
> smell, which they would all get used to, there was no problem. So I'm
> afraid you should wash you hair for the asthetics and not for the health
> reasons.
>
> Regards
> Kylie.
>
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> Centre for Resource Management/
> Department of Resource Management
> Lincoln University
> Canterbury
> Aotearoa New Zealand
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 19 10:14:01 1996
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'Wild' and 'beautiful'?
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:03:37 -0000."
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:13:57 -0700
From: "Stephen R. Figgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Let wild places be wild, but human places can be fit to human wants,
>>needs, and sense of beauty.
>
>But Stephen, don't you think that notions of what is 'wild' or 'beautiful'
>are specifically human constructs/ideas, rather than 'pre-given' as you
>seem to suggest? Just as what we term 'weeds'. Your thoughts.....
>Richard.
Beauty is definitely a human idea. I was suggesting that humans do,
and should model their living spaces to fit their sense of beauty
bearing in mind the affect that will have on the environment and on
other people in the community. But that similar management is not
necessary nor even beneficial to those places that are not human
dwelling places, those places we generally think of as wilderness. In
the human concept of wilderness is an idea that those places are
relatively untouched by humans (although I can't think of any areas
that are not affected by humans.) Wilderness as a human idea includes
a sense that the biosphere in question is pre-given as far as humans
are concerned, and maintains its wildness until humans develop it,
landscape it, or destroy it.
This sense of wild or wilderness is interesting from an eco-feminist
viewpoint because it does separate humans from nature which we think
of as wild. Maybe taking a look at the wildness of a city, or the city
as an ecosystem within our biosphere can give us a better perspective.
Okay, Richard, you definitely got me thinking about terms. But I
still think letting whatever grows in your yard just grow uncontrolled
is going to result in a very ugly yard that will upset your neighbors
and may cause more environmental harm than cutting it. A managed
garden would be preferable.
Stephen R. Figgins
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http://tech.ora.com/fig/
"Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed
beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern
conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the
other head of science, Arthur, it bites!"
--The Tick
