Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:06:22 -0400
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From: Nicla Camerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: state terrorism
> >Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
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> >From: Carlos Alicea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
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> >Subject: RE: state terrorism
> >Originally to: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> Tim: Isaid that I agree with you because you were the first person
> >> analyzing the US policy in light of the historical behavior of United
> >> States around the globe. I come from the oldest colony in America, Puerto
> >> Rico. In my political acttivism I have studied US foreing policy,
> >> specially toward Latin America. A constant in the policy decison process
> >> of US is their lack of selfcriticism and self analysis. Never in their
> >> minds seems to evaluate in whta ways their own decisons caused resenment
> >> and hatred in other countries. Invasions, supporting dictarioships in name
> >> of democracy, supporting drug trafficking to tyhis country in name of
> >> democracy, are some of the examples that came to mind. I do not support
> >> violence againts civilians and inocent people. It is not popularity Tim,
> >> but from my perspective you made a very good analysis of the US policy and
> >> that is very encouraging for me.
> >>
> >> In solidarity, Carlos R. Alicea
> >>
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Joe E. Dees wrote:
> >
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> >Don't overgeneralize, Carlos. Our actions are not always wrong
> >simply because we're the "big, bad U. S. of A.," and they were not
> >wrong here.
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> Sorry man, but you take the wrong way, most of the time US have had bad
> external policies. If you want to ridiculousness your own people do it but
> not put words in another mouth, and for instance many people around the
> world recognize the precious oportunity that your country given to them in
> education and transfer of new utile tecnologies in many areas of the humans
> context.
>
> And for last, what we are talking about is the US External policies, not
> about the country or its citizen.
>
> Nicla
One again: We supported and armed the indigenous Afghan
resistance to an occupying Soviet Union (their Vietnam). The
Taliban gratefully repay us by harboring a terrorist network publicly
committed to murdering U.S. citizens, military and civilian, around
the world. In THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, the U.S. is the wronged
party.
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> >> > Date sent: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:03:25 -0400 (EDT)
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> >> > From: Carlos Alicea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
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> >> > Subject: RE: state terrorism
> >> > Originally to: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >
> >> > > I agree in solidarity with Mr. Tim Hundsdorfer
> >> >
> >> > A goodly number seem to agree with me, too, although right and
> >> > wrong should never be decided by a popularity contest. Joe Dees
> >> > > Carlos R. Alicea
> >> > > On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Tim Hundsdorfer wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Bullshit! We have been declared targets by this fanatical nut, and
> >> > > > have every right to protect ourselves! I devoutly hope one of those
> >> > > > missles cruised right up Osama Bin Laden's ass!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Two things.> >> > > >
> > > > First, the question which you appear to be begging is why
> >>there are so many in the Islamic world who have declared us "targets."
> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Second, you need to examine where this impulse came from within
> >>yourself.> >> > > >
> > > > No offense, Joe, but yours is not an Ecofeminist impulse,
> >>in my opinion. I had the same impulse myself, but the reality is that
> >>Pakistan did nothing to us (and in fact up until about two months ago
> >>were s
> >taunch allies) and the real story in Sudan should be thousands (tens of
> >thousands?) of
> >
> >> > starving children.> >> > > >
> > > > Hoping Bin Laden was hit with a cruise missile is not
> >>worth the fact that innocent people were actually hit with them. The
> >>price of 50+ cruise missiles, along with the reparations we will end up
> >>paying to
> > Pakistan, will truly be staggering. For a country which cut its free
> >breakfast program
> >
> >> > for poor children, the price is too high.> >> > > >
> > > > Sorry to be argumentative, but I am pretty confident my
> >>comments reflect the views of a large number on this list.
> >
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tim Hundsdorfer
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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