Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Arlene Plevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: state terrorism
Originally to: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Just to clarify some things, I did not offer the comment below. Sure, I
> know that for the most part I'd make a miserable Moslem woman in some
> Moslem cultures, but just because someone might surpress my usual way of
> communicating etc., doesn't mean I dismiss him or her.
A feminist who does not automatically oppose the suppression of
women by men? Wow! What's your opinion of the (mainly Islamic)
practice of clitoral excision?
Nor does it mean I
> sanction violence. Fanatics--of all persuasions & countries--do not "die"
> when one or more is killed; their blood waters others--their deaths end up
> sparking new violence. I see that prompts more cycles, seemingly endless,
> of violence: retaliation, recovery, retaliation again.
>
> Some suggestions:
>
> I do believe the world court can come together quickly and sanction
> international violence. I do believe it's possible to VERY selectively
> dismantle the means of production for nerve gas, etc. (although it's
> arguable that other dangerous sites exist--the nuclear weapons/waste in
> parts of the former Soviet Union where poverty & disorganization makes
> them more vulnerable).
>
> I do believe we can stop production of some of those weapons here at home
> and we can work, quickly, on stopping shipment of the means (facilties,
> raw materials, etc.) to make such weapons.
>
> I believe reaching with positive aid to countries we believe harbor
> terrorists, helping the people there to "fish" for themselves can help
> more than anything.
>
> Many folks view what happened at Ruby Ridge with horror, wishing that a
> child and a mother didn't die. Perhaps other countries view our bombing
> of their territory in a similar light. What is gained there? Bin Laden
> is a sympton, in addition to being a person. Why and how he came into
> existence is complex (yes, we helped him, to some degree) and that should
> be addressed. Hundreds of other bin Ladens will spring up unless the why
> of how they got to where they were, the poor "soil" which permits their
> violence to take root (no, it's not just religion) is dealt with.
In the real world, terrorists will always be with us, and will always find
a reason, or an excuse, to kill.
> Arlene Plevin
>
> On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > also (I think Arlene also posted) (Nope, it's not me--Arlene!)
> >
> > "Remember that if this
> > guy had his way, all the women on or off this list would be
> > bechadored or dead."
