Date sent:              Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
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From:                   Carlos Alicea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:                     STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                RE: state terrorism
Originally to:          STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Tim: Isaid that I agree with you because you were the first person
> analyzing the US policy in light of  the historical behavior of United
> States around the globe.  I come from the oldest colony in America, Puerto
> Rico.  In my political acttivism I have studied US foreing policy,
> specially toward Latin America.  A constant in the policy decison process
> of US is their lack of selfcriticism and self analysis.  Never in their
> minds seems to evaluate in whta ways their own decisons caused resenment
> and hatred in other countries. Invasions, supporting dictarioships in name
> of democracy, supporting drug trafficking to tyhis country in name of
> democracy, are some of the examples that came to mind.  I do not support
> violence againts civilians and inocent people. It is not popularity Tim,
> but from my perspective you made a very good analysis of the US policy and
> that is very encouraging for me.
> 
> In solidarity, Carlos R. Alicea
> 
> On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Joe E. Dees wrote:

Don't overgeneralize, Carlos. Our actions are not always wrong 
simply because we're the "big, bad U. S. of A.," and they were not 
wrong here.
> > Date sent:          Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:03:25 -0400 (EDT)
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> > From:               Carlos Alicea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:                 STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject:            RE: state terrorism
> > Originally to:      STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > >   I agree in solidarity with Mr. Tim Hundsdorfer 
> > 
> > A goodly number seem to agree with me, too, although right and 
> > wrong should never be decided by a popularity contest.  Joe Dees
> > > Carlos R. Alicea
> > > On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Tim Hundsdorfer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bullshit!  We have been declared targets by this fanatical nut, and 
> > > > have every right to protect ourselves!  I devoutly hope one of those 
> > > > missles cruised right up Osama Bin Laden's ass!
> > > > 
> > > > Two things.
> > > > > > > > First, the question which you appear to be begging is why there are 
>so many in the Islamic world who have declared us "targets."

> > > > 
> > > > Second, you need to examine where this impulse came from within yourself.
> > > > > > > > No offense, Joe, but yours is not an Ecofeminist impulse, in my 
>opinion.  I had the same impulse myself, but the reality is that Pakistan did nothing 
>to us (and in fact up until about two months ago were s
taunch allies) and the real story in Sudan should be thousands (tens of thousands?) of 

> > starving children.
> > > > > > > > Hoping Bin Laden was hit with a cruise missile is not worth the fact 
>that innocent people were actually hit with them.  The price of 50+ cruise missiles, 
>along with the reparations we will end up paying to
 Pakistan, will truly be staggering.  For a country which cut its free breakfast 
program 

> > for poor children, the price is too high.
> > > > > > > > Sorry to be argumentative, but I am pretty confident my comments 
>reflect the views of a large number on this list.

> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Tim Hundsdorfer 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 

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