Dear Jake:
I welcome all people to this list or any. I think the act of thinking
about what we do & why, how we interact with the environment and each
other, is a great calling card and entrance "fee" (that's not the word I
want but it will have to do for now).
Arlene Plevin
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Jake A Paisain wrote:
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> I am dismayed at the recent posts about wanting to find an ecofeminism
> listserv "free of males" and by feminists essentialism leading to
> separatism.
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> I am male and an ecofeminist. And Carlos is right when he says that
> eco-feminism is about inclusion. Ecofeminism strives to bring about the
> changes in human society which will allow us to continue to live on this
> beautiful planet as a species. If we remain divided, continually
> reinforcing the separations between us (and offending people in the
> process), we shall not succeed. The eco-feminist concept of loving care
> extends not only to your fellow woman, to animals, and the earth, but also
> to men who are working in this same area. We are working towards a common
> goal and I do not feel that your offensive comments about men will do
> anything at all to help our cause.
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> And besides, I am a male and my mother beat the shit out of me for years
> and years not to mention verbal, emotional and mental abuse. Women are
> NOT blameless when it comes to abuse... and NOT blameless when it comes to
> destroying our planet either. OUR COMMON ENEMY IS PATRIARCHY, NOT MEN.
> If you are so unwilling to participate in discussion with half the planet,
> how do you ever want to get anything done? The SCUM Manifesto by Valerie
> Solanas is an interesting and REALLY SCARY proposition advocating the
> murder of most of the male "species" described by her as an "inferior,
> incomplete woman." That's the same thing the stupid Greeks said about
> women.
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> I am also homosexual and have an extremely developed "feminine" side for
> which I was ostracized, harassed and beaten for during most of my
> developing years. I've spent a lot of time wanting to get away from all
> the heterosexuals in the world, especially men, but women too. But I've
> realized that for my OWN PERSONAL GROWTH I have to learn how to deal with
> these people and be okay. It's a struggle and it's a hard one. But
> little by little I'm learning not to be as afraid, and to love and protect
> myself, my interests, and my planet.
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> Good luck.
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> jacob paisain
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