Thanks Tim,

For starting out the discussion.  I feel it is worthwhile to clarify 
that when I discusses the unconscious, unacknowledged characteristics 
of male priviledge, I am not wishing to demonize males, or widen the 
schism that may exist between men and women.  Rather the whole matter 
really fascinates me because I'm coming to think that the duality
stems from very deep substructures of human consciousness-- 

where early human females  maintained a sense of identity 
and community via the mother/child diad, with other females.  
Fatherhood as a cultural attribute was unknown.  But when males and 
females began to form a newer family unit, males cultivated identity 
by asserting their prowess and desirability through showing their 
abilities at provisioning -- the male/female assymetry includes Being 
(female) and Doing (male) or communion vs action.....

As we all pretty much agree, an imbalance and heirarchy of these 
energies has occured which is very much part of the headlong  
distruction of our earthly home, and basis for much evil/ignorant 
behavior among humans.

What interests me is, how would culture evolve if competition and the 
urge for domination were somehow erased.  How would we spend our time 
if we were not out there trying to get ahead of the other guy, or 
acquiring as much stuff as possible, or showing how we're alittle 
bit smarter or more able than the other guy.  Much of our cultural 
evolution to date has resulted from the subject/object duality, from 
a profound urge for differentiation which has also come to imply 
control and domination.

I read somewhere recently of a survey of children (say third graders) 
where they were asked "How would you feel if you were suddenly 
changed from a girl to boy, or vice versa."  Girls talked of 
increased freedom, more opportunities, etc.  Boys often said they'd 
want to kill themselves if that happened.  These biases run deep and 
wide.

I try to envision a world where we were not so invested in heirarchy 
and competition....Even I feel, at a gut level that this kind of 
world would seem somehow bland and uninteresting.


Other opinions?

Lydia
Linda Littrell
Applied Economoics
University of Minnesota
612/625-1762
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get to the root of the problem!
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---Bob Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hello Angela!
> Have you checked out Chris King's message about a week or two ago on
> the Ecofem. listserv?  It has lots and lots about what your recent
> post seems to be calling for, the design of a new religion.  
> I'll try to copy out his website address:
> http://matul.math.auckland.ac.nz/~king/Preprints/book/genesis.htm
> 
> But beware, I think my computer caught a virus
> about this time.  I hope it didn't come from his website somehow- it
> would just be like some people to try to sabotage a good thing thus!
> Peace!
> Bob Burns
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