Angela,
Hello! My name is kjersten and i'm new to the list. I'm just now
getting to read all of the mail that has been sent to me on ecofeminisnm
and the topic of matriarchy. I just read the comment you wrote about
matriarchy and the fact that it is of years past. I really related to
what you wrote and I completely agree with you that we need togetherness
of all beings for the earth to progress in a positive manner! I would
love it if you would be able to send me more information on related
topics..... I really enjoy hearing others opinions on topics that
involve collectiveness. Thanks,
kjersten
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>In a message dated 98-09-22 08:17:19 EDT, you write:
>
><< easily--there never would have been an issue in the first place if
as I
> said before, the partriarchy hadnt obliterated the goddess culture
that
> thrived long before patriarchy reared its ugly head.
>
> Bertina
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> >>
>
>Hi!
>
>I know it is nice sometimes to reflect on the good old days - in your
case the
>good old days of the goddess culture? But, can we PLEASE come back to
the here
>and now and take it from here. If you had a time machine you could go
back to
>your good old days of goddess culture? - but I think that you are stuck
here
>in this patriarchial boat with us. The odds of the return of the
Earth
>Goddess are slim to none - maybe within your little circles of
understanding
>you will come to grips with that! However can we PLEASE work together
to
>make the patriarchy a uniarchy and not try for matriarchy - because
matriarchy
>implies exclusion of male participation - Reverse exclusion??
>Because We need togetherness not more separatisim - Women would be no
better
>at matters then men are - you know why? Because the truth is we need
EACH
>OTHER male and women working together - that is fair/just/right -!
>
>Just because generally being more nurturing is more of a female trait
and
>needing more power is more a male trait - does not mean that there are
not men
>who are nurturing and there are not women who seek power! Therefore,
what
>this tells us is that our own stereotyping and generalizing of males
and
>females is wrong and will get us no where - the answer does not lie in
>reversal of gender roles or religious beliefs! We should view each
other as
>individuals - the way God views us :
>
>equally as important, equally as powerful, equally as divine, equally
as
>capable of being nurturing and loving - the Earth really needs us - The
Earth
>does not need reverse discrimination and/or old goddess cultures, The
Earth
>needs our true equity - true love men and women at the healm - loving
each
>other as individual spirited children of Creation.
>
>Peace,
>Angela
>
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:43:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bertina Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MATRIOTS
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I didnt think I was talking about seperatism. Nor was I talking about a
queendom like there is in Britain. If one wants to try to instigate a
culture where there is more equality among the sexes then one must take
into account the cultures that exist and have existed where equality
was/is more prevelant.
I think it was Will Beson who brought the term "matriot" into circulation.
His definition was a little different than mine.
Bertina
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On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, kjersten D'Angelo wrote:
> Angela,
> Hello! My name is kjersten and i'm new to the list. I'm just now
> getting to read all of the mail that has been sent to me on ecofeminisnm
> and the topic of matriarchy. I just read the comment you wrote about
> matriarchy and the fact that it is of years past. I really related to
> what you wrote and I completely agree with you that we need togetherness
> of all beings for the earth to progress in a positive manner! I would
> love it if you would be able to send me more information on related
> topics..... I really enjoy hearing others opinions on topics that
> involve collectiveness. Thanks,
> >
> >In a message dated 98-09-22 08:17:19 EDT, you write:
> >
> ><< easily--there never would have been an issue in the first place if
> as I
> > said before, the partriarchy hadnt obliterated the goddess culture
> that
> > thrived long before patriarchy reared its ugly head.
> >
> > Bertina
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >I know it is nice sometimes to reflect on the good old days - in your
> case the
> >good old days of the goddess culture? But, can we PLEASE come back to
> the here
> >and now and take it from here. If you had a time machine you could go
> back to
> >your good old days of goddess culture? - but I think that you are stuck
> here
> >in this patriarchial boat with us. The odds of the return of the
> Earth
> >Goddess are slim to none - maybe within your little circles of
> understanding
> >you will come to grips with that! However can we PLEASE work together
> to
> >make the patriarchy a uniarchy and not try for matriarchy - because
> matriarchy
> >implies exclusion of male participation - Reverse exclusion??
> >Because We need togetherness not more separatisim - Women would be no
> better
> >at matters then men are - you know why? Because the truth is we need
> EACH
> >OTHER male and women working together - that is fair/just/right -!
> >
> >Just because generally being more nurturing is more of a female trait
> and
> >needing more power is more a male trait - does not mean that there are
> not men
> >who are nurturing and there are not women who seek power! Therefore,
> what
> >this tells us is that our own stereotyping and generalizing of males
> and
> >females is wrong and will get us no where - the answer does not lie in
> >reversal of gender roles or religious beliefs! We should view each
> other as
> >individuals - the way God views us :
> >
> >equally as important, equally as powerful, equally as divine, equally
> as
> >capable of being nurturing and loving - the Earth really needs us - The
> Earth
> >does not need reverse discrimination and/or old goddess cultures, The
> Earth
> >needs our true equity - true love men and women at the healm - loving
> each
> >other as individual spirited children of Creation.
> >
> >Peace,
> >Angela
> >
>
>
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