In a message dated 98-11-13 07:39:38 EST, you write:
<< I read your slanderous posts of weird witches, false shamans and
black magic, I truly wonder how different you all really are from
each other. Joe
>>
Hi!
Joe are you saying there are no weird witches, false shamans (I did not say
false - I said shamans who misuse the power, and no black magic? I see - and
who is the Crone? What are magick spells used in Wicca? And I know for a
fact that shamans have been accused of misusing the power - they just get
carried away!
So - how is what I said slanderous if it is true?
There has been a lot said and a little understood.
Peace!
Angela
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> In a message dated 98-11-13 05:55:36 EST, you write:
>
> << Are you still trying to tell me my mother didn't have ovaries Angela?
>
> love, Chris.
> >>
> Hi!
>
> Chris - cool it! Your mother huh! Ok Chris - what does the bible -wherein
> the culmination of the evolutionary epoch which you are trying to undertake
> -say about "black magic and the witch?" Would you care to enlighten us about
> that or would you like me to!
>
Your bible says, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Would you,
in obediance to your god, kill us if you had the chance? Would it
be a sin if you did not? What does this all say abour the possibility
of finding any redeeming tolerance in your fundamentalist beliefs?
(By the way; there is no devil in the Craft; only in transcendant
monotheism. Thus, this satanic preoccupation is solely yours, not
ours. Humans do enough evil things to the world and each other
without any help, thankyouverymuch). Joe
> Back to the tree in the Garden (says Chris)- do you all remember who was
> banned from the Garden for tempting Eve? Oh yea - the Dark One - him/her?! OK
> so now Chris, the practiced shaman practices black magic and brings him/her
> back - oh Joy to the World - now we will all be saved or is this - could it be
> really the end! Get it?
>
> Maybe I am totally off base - but guess what - If God (the almighty
> creator/omnipotent all powerful one) wanted to give birth to a son through a
> virgin woman so that the message would be pure and untouched by you know who
> (the one who was banned from the garden) - then good for you God and I am glad
> you did it! Saved us - or did it? Can't save you if you don't believe it!
> How can you believe that there is a powerful entity/God that created this
> world and not believe that that God can choose to create a PURE/unadultered,
> unpentratable birth of a Son to bring the message of his light and love to the
> world - a message that can not be touched by the Evil Spirit of the banned one
> - Get it?
>
> Now if for some reason you are still having trouble following this - Ask Chris
> to explain! His mother is not your mother - but the nemesis of God (nemesis
> means enemy folks!) - your mother is Blessed Mary - mother to your savior -
> son of your God! She was pure and obedient to The Holy Spirit of God - she
> was humble and true and kind. Don't be fooled! The you know who was banned is
> VERY TRICKY!
> Wants back in - what do you say? Would it be OK to bring more darkness into
> the world? Don't you think we have enough?
> It may actually be too late - people have already turned away from God at an
> alarming rate!
>
> Ask yourself if you want harmony, life, love and light in the world - yes or
> no - If you said yes, my advice look into and look for God again. Bring back
> God not the you know who!
>
> We think we want liberation but what we need is discipline - We need to
> discipline ourselves to the flow of the natural laws of God and the natural
> world. We actually need less freedom and more discipline - my humble opinion!
>
> Peace!
> Angela
>