I sense we are headed toward the intense religious debates of not too long
ago...
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: the veggie debate
> Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:56 AM
>
> In a message dated 1/20/99 7:53:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Certainly not the bastard progeny of an unholy union between Derrida,
> Foucault and Mary Daly which you are here attempting to foist as
philosophy.
> >>
>
> Again, try doing your thinking for yourself rather than trying to fit my
> thinking into the boxes you've learned.
>
> "you are devaluing self-consciousness for the sake of empowering flora."
>
> I'm not "devaluing" self-consciousness ; but self-consciousness certainly
> needs to be put into perspective. Human arrogance doesn't strike me as
> anything worthy of praise. Hubris is hubris.
>
> "You mean it is ineffable. " No, I do NOT mean it is ineffable. I mean
that
> other descriptive systems are necessary to do justice to the experience,
> because the dominant categories are inadequate.
>
> "Your experience, qua yours, cannot be negated by anyone else's
(experience
> being, like Dasein, "in each case mine" (Heidegger)), but, by the same
logic,
> neither are you free to pull a Baudrillard on us by forcing us to adopt a
> similacrum of your experience as our own."
>
> But one can point out structures in language and in the socius which
block
> certain types of experience.
>
> "Are you against the use of vaccines, antibiotics and disinfectants
because of
> the devastation they wreak on the microbe population (spawns of science
they
> are; how evil they must be!)? My point being that just because something
is
> not entirely natural does not mean that to employ it is a sign of moral
> deficiency."
>
> This is entirely irrelevant. I suggested a critique of industrialism ;
nowhere
> in this context did I speak of the natural or indeed of science. I spoke
of
> production.
>
> "Until we reduce our populations to the point where a mass agricultural
> infrastructure is unnecessary, our options are limited."
>
> Bull. It's political and social realities as well as cultural lags that
block
> widescale local permaculture, fungiculture,etc. It's a restructuring of
lives
> that is necessary. I'm not disagreeing that population reduction is part
of
> that equation ; but it is not the all of it.
