In a message dated 3/14/1999 3:53:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< GOOD GOD! The more I learn about Islamic fundamentalists the more I thank
GOD I am an ATHEIST!!*grin* I wonder how many Islamic fundamentalists would
tolerate an atheist bisexual feminist in their ranks? >>
What about christian fundamentalists, what about orthodox jews and a host of
other cultural and religious beliefs among a wide variety of ethnicities which
do not ally themselves to bisexuality or certain aspects of feminism?
How many non-religious social/cultural organizations would be tolerant, much
less welcoming of an atheist bisexual feminist?
Potentially, are they not allowed to have their own beliefs? Just as you do?
Would a group of atheist bisexual feminists tolerate a muslim woman, or an
islamic fundamentalist male or female within their ranks? Or even a strongly
christian woman?
Should they have to, if their "ranks" are made up of people with their same
values and beliefs, perspectives on life, natural and nutured identities
comeing together for common goals and mutual sharing? Is it not their choice
to do that, especially if not inflicting harm on others?
Not every fundamentalist muslim acts out in, or supports, violence - at best
they wouldn't want you around them. Because of your wonder about what they
would tolerate in their ranks, that sounds like you are not exempt from being
taunting and antagonistic towards them - so why should they not be the same
towards you?
Potentially, the attitudes and behaviors of atheist bisexual feminists can be
negative towards others not like them, even towards each other.
Even within the group their are people who are positive and negative - not all
atheist bisexual feminists are perfectly kind and caring towards others, and
certainly different perspectives can allow that "Islamic Fundamentalist" in
itself is negative and culturally/personally damaging and others can say that
to be "athiest bisexual feminists" (one, two or all three) is by definition
negative, damaging, culturally backwards, repugnant, etc.
I am sure there are Islamic Fundamentalists who say " GOOD GOD The more I
learn about atheist bisexual feminists the more I thank God that I am an
Islamic Fundamentalist."
Actually a very strong strand in that group is revulsion to what they see as
the moral decay, decadence, ego driven individualistic damage that they feel
manifests in the various negatives in the western world. In fact, often
fundamentalist use exactly such imager as "atheist bisexual feminist" to
justify their positions as a protective, insulating measure against such
mindsets/ways of life. They also earn a certain amount of ally with the more
moderate and wholistic muslims who also share values against such things - and
would prefer to lean more towards fundamentalism than towards atheist
bisexuals feminists (feminist inspires less repulsion, except when people link
it to the first two). In many islamic countries, islamic fundamentalism is
directed at the spread of what they consider western cultural evils and
negative damaging ideologies on their culture, religious beliefs, social
structure.
Perhaps they want to change and progress with their own societies but not in
the ways that these other ideologies dictate they should. While they have
mindsets and can progress to mindset that gives equality between husband and
wife, they may reject the beliefs that heather should have two mommies? Isn't
that there cultural right and something to be determined within their own
society - while they should not slaugher the two mommies, is it okay that this
is not a cultural value in their society? That is is not a value accepted in
exactly the same ways as other countries, when it does exist?
They send their children to schools that are more fundamentalist than they
would like, because they feel it will insulate them against being exposed to
what they consider to be a fate/metality worse than death. The idea that
athetist bisexual feminists (and their male counterparts) do want to
infilitrate and convert the ranks of others, is also a justification for their
responses.
In these ways Islamic Fundamentalism can be said to be in direct defense
response to atheist bisexual feminsts and the perception that they seek to
convert and subvert the life choices of others.
I am not denouncing your right, or even reasoning, feelings, simply presenting
another perspective on it.
Nicole
