On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Bertina Miller wrote:

> What seperates people is the way one chooses to live and the way one 
> chooses to interact with others. Saying that people are desecrating our 
> Mother because people are in denial of the spiritual is the same as all 
> the Christian Coalition going around saying that the only way crime, 
> violence, and teen pregnancy can be slowed is through family values.

Is that what people have said on this list?  Or, have they said that 
*they* find talking about their experience of connection (which may be 
quite similar to your own experience of connection) using a spiritual 
language/spiritual concepts and/or a metaphor such as "earth is mother" a 
*meaningful* and *empowering* way of speaking?  

You clearly speak of yourself as sharing some form of a connected (as 
opposed to separated) experience.  Can you *describe* that experience for 
us?  I think it might be interesting for all of us to hear another 
language to describe connection.  Perhaps there are similar experiences 
underlying different conceptual expressions?

> On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Coyote1 wrote:
> 
> > Faith and Rose and whoever else -
> > 
> > I agree wholeheartedly with you on the issue of denial of the spiritual 
> > as being a root of the desecration of our Mother.  This concept is 
> > something we must re-learn and resurrect from our group memory if the 
> > Earth is to continue to be habitable.  Traditional peoples everywhere 
> > (yes, your ancestors and mine and all our relations) live(d) by this 
> > concept, and the wisdom (a female concept in the Hebrew Bible and 
> > elsewhere) is out there for us to grasp - look back far enough and your 
> > own ancestors can give it to you.

I would just point out that the phrase used above is "*a* root of the 
desecration of..."  I don't think the implication is that anyone who 
declines to use spiritual language is guilty of desecrating the earth.

As for the rest of the paragraph, I think there is quite a bit of 
evidence that earlier civilizations did have a different concept of the 
sacred.  Although I would also caution against glorifying what we really 
know little about.  Not all "traditional peoples" *always* respected the 
environment.  There were unhealthy "traditional" cultures which 
brutalized people and the environment, as well.

Jayne

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