DeSolla,Shane [Burlington] wrote:

>Shouldn't it be, "The Earth is round (B<.05)"?
>
>After all, the null hypothesis would be that the Earth was round, and
>rejecting it would give you, "The Earth is not round (P<.05)"
>
>According to Cohen, you can only accept a null hypothesis to be true if
>the power was high enough to detect the smallest relevant effect size.
>Thus, if the Earth did not differ significantly from being round, and
>you had a high enough power to detect a relevant degree of "roundness",
>then you could declare the Earth was round (Power = 0.95, or B = 0.05;
>or whatever your acceptable cutoff for power). The p, of course, would
>be bigger than 0.05, or whatever value of alpha you are using.
>
>Although I am not worthy enough of statistics to comment on this, some
>statisticians say you should never use a P-value. But that is for
>Bayesians to comment upon...
>
>  
>
It's one of those amusing little ironies that makes the world what it is 
that Bayesians are so associated with anti-P-valueism.  I think it's 
fair to say that most applied statisticians know the problems with 
p-values, but this knowledge hasn't perculated down far enough yet.  The 
irony here is that what most people think a p-value is is actually the 
Bayesian version.

Before I start ranting, I'll pass on this link to a selection of short 
articles about stats, aimed at medics but still useful:
<http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~mb55/pubs/pbstnote.htm>
Have fun!

Bob

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