I have some difficulty with Duncan's assumptions. He posits the rise and 
fall of civilization in general based on a rise and fall of energy spent 
per capita (e). This assumes that his 'industrial civilization' and high 
'e' is some sort of evolutionary high point, reflecting civilization's 
highest moral and ethical values and standard of living. This is quite a 
reach; so-called industrial civilization may just be a relatively 
energy-inefficient and high consumption per capita phase, following 
which the 'e' will drop off as energy efficiencies rise and energy 
economics necessitate less consumption. So what? These are good things, 
unless he is advocating rampant consumerism and waste. His further 
predictions of a great decrease in population and the necessity for 
sustainable living practices are also good things, so again, where's the 
problem? I think a better measure of human progress than 'e' might be 
the realized 'technology per capita', which would include and facilitate 
things like sophisticated health care, communications, and economic 
empowerment.

William R. Porter


> Folks --
>
> I do not post this reference lightly, and just discovered the updated 
> analysis of well-defined and transparent empirical data by Richard Clark 
> Duncan this evening.  Duncan is an energy specialist of national, if not 
>   

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