Another N-S perspective. We should pay attention to numbers - for example, excluding Alaska, the US and Brazil are about the same area. The USA has 100 MILLION people MORE than Brazil in that same area.... Density is much greater in Europe, clearly India and China. Many Third World countries figure that the USA became great by populating itself and so they need to d= o the same. During the 1800s in the USA it has been figured that the average family had around 8 kids (if my memory serves).
So, yes, the world is overpopulated, but who should be reducing their populations? Cheers, Jim On 11/29/07, Amartya Saha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh well. Here's that old north vs south debate again. Yes, things would b= e > extreme if all 500 million individuals had the resource usage of the firs= t > world. > As regards the lady who decided to be childless, its her trip and no one > has any > business passing judgements on that. But if she were indeed serious about > reducing her carbon footprint, she'd reduce much more if she left cushy > London > and went and lived in a third world town. Better, a third world farm. Tha= t > includes giving up long haul flights once a year... > cheers > amartya > > > > > > Quoting Lela Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Matheus does raise a point that is rarely discussed even here and > virtually > > never by (American) politicos. The human footprint would still be > > problematic with a smaller global population, but it would be made > vastly > > more bearable if we weren't multipying quite so fruitfully. I've seen > > estimates (possibly in The World Without Us?) of a global human carryin= g > > capacity at 500 million to 1 billion individuals- numbers which are > unlikely > > to be reached through even the most heartfelt birth control campaigns. > All > > the same, between a thoughtful, systematic reduction of population - > > including measures such as, yes, some people not having kids - and a > grand > > Malthusian crash, I know which I'd vote for. > > > > > > > > On 11/28/07, Mike Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > All of the people who believed that they could help to save the plane= t > > > by not having babies lived their life span and died. The rest of the > > > world's population went ahead and had babies. As the genetic (and > > > cultural) lines of those believers in birth control perished, the > human > > > population grew even faster. > > > > > > Mike Marsh > > > --------- > > > Matheus Carvalho wrote: > > > > > > ... to reduce her CO2 footprint. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id= =3D495495&in_page_id=3D1879 > > > > > > > > > --=20 James J. Roper, Ph.D. Ecologia e Din=E2micas Populacionais de Vertebrados Terrestres Caixa Postal 19034 81531-990 Curitiba, Paran=E1, Brasil E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefone: 55 41 33857249 Mobile: 55 41 99870543 http://www.bio.ufpr.br/ecologia/ Ecologia e Conserva=E7=E3o na UFPR http://jjroper.googlespages.com Personal Pages
