Cl is correct in this.  We also must recognize that indeed the biggest
problems are NOT from Third World countries, contrary to popular belief
- it is OUR problem, not somebody else's.  For example, as mentioned,
Brazil has 100 million FEWER people on the same amount of land as the
USA - gross figures.  BUT, those people are actually MUCH more urban
than rural, so there is much more still "natural" land in Brazil than
just looking at those numbers.  But, of the land being damaged, what of
those causes? Globalization.  Soy, that goes to China and the USA and
Europe.  The huge populations in those countries DRIVE the problems in
the third world, because the economics revolves around the rich folks.
Soy production in Brazil is on a much greater scale than small farmers
who cut the forest to eke out a living.  In Africa and parts of Asia,
where populations are larger, perhaps cutting for firewood is a big
problem, but in other parts logging to feed the Japanese and Chinese
markets are more important.

So, no matter how you look at it, the conservation problems follow the
money.  So, the solution is to follow the money to the source of the
problem.

Jim

Cara Lin Bridgman wrote:
> The thing that bothers me about most of these sorts of humans vs
> environment discussions is how the focus tends to be on population--as
> if we could just solve the problem of third world population growth,
> then everything would be hunky-dory.  It tends to turn our biggest
> environmental problems into 'somebody else's problem.'
>
> CL
>
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