Since I did my graduate work in physics, not ecology, I was hesitant to step in here. However on looking at the various responses I would like to point out that in physics, and possibly in other areas, the masters degree is what you get if you try to get a PhD but drop out part way through. It is rare for someone to enter graduate school with the intent of getting a masters in physics, although there are some fields, such as optical physics, where it is a meaningful degree.

In a sense the masters can be a terminal degree, although often this was not the original intent of the student. It may signify that the student did enough work in graduate student to merit some recognition, but was not willing or able to proceed to the PhD.

However I should qualify this by pointing out that I know some schools that are trying to establish a graduate program and start with a masters degree before they are able to offer a PhD. This is fine, espeicially if they are conscientious about finding suitable jobs for masters graduates or providing help for those who want to go on to a graduate school that offers a PhD or EdD program.

Bill Silvert


----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" <sean...@duke.edu>
To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] EdD vs PhD


Wait a second here. This has nothing to do with the debate over two terminal degrees (can't get more than a Ph.D. or Ed.D). A Masters is not a terminal degree.

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