Such "unconferences" are pretty well established in the tech world,
particularly among programmers working on open-source projects. See
http://barcamp.org and the Wikipedia entry for "unconference"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference>.

Jane Shevtsov

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ecolog:
>
>
>
> Methinks there might be even more elephants in the saloon--perhaps of many
> hues.
>
>
>
> It has been my observation in the past that I have learnt more in the
> hallways, WC's, and saloons than I have being driven nuts listening to
> 20-minute "presentations" (attention ethologists!), in darkened halls
> enduring the maddening, warp-speeding of laser traces across extensive,
> unreadable tables and under-wowed by power-pointless pontifications and
> dull-drumming, self-indulgent preening reading of newly-minted
> number-crunchers, ad nauseam.
>
>
>
> "Yea, tho there be the occasional exception, I have long dreamt of
> unorganized groupings, pre-read pre-publication papers cussed and discussed
> with the authors in a more playfully serious atmosphere than the arbitrary,
> jammed, expensive "meetings" at resort destinations. I even participated in
> one experiment in unorganizing such a gathering; it was soon organized into
> a "real" organization, however. The only such unorganization I ever knew to
> last was "The Friends of the Pleistocene," which still exists, I believe, in
> some form. Not a bad model, though, even though it would never pass PC
> muster these days . . . too much wild behavior back in the sixties and
> seventies.
>
>
>
> The trouble with unorganizations is that they don't pad résumés or bring in
> money for institutions, not to mention "status." With or without booze, they
> seem to me to work better than organized meetings.
>
>
>
> WT
>
>
>
> PS: Seriously, folks, whatever it takes to puncture caution, lower guards,
> and stir up passions. I may yet collect the beer Silvert promised me a long
> time ago, but I'd rather he came to San Diego . . . I love Europe, but have
> come to hate airlines so much . . .
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Inouye" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:09 AM
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] alcohol consumption and citation counts
>
>
> http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2010/09/make_mine_a_double.html
>
> Make mine a double - September 15, 2010
>
> There have been
> <http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100813/full/news.2010.406.html>some
> radical suggestions to increase citation counts
> of late but heavy drinking would probably rank at
> the bottom of most researchers' lists.
>
> Yet a new study has found that the world's most
> highly cited ecologists and environmental
> scientists typically consume more than double the
> amount imbibed by the general population.
>
> <http://www.springerlink.com/content/j5205442788316v6/>Published
> in the October issue of
> <http://www.springerlink.com/content/j5205442788316v6/>Scientometrics,
> John Parker, a post-doctoral sociologist at the
> National Center for Ecological Analysis and
> Synthesis at the University of California, Santa
> Barbara, and colleagues report the results of a
> survey of the drinking habits of 124 of the most
> highly cited researchers in ecology and
> environmental science: the vast majority men aged
> between 50 and 70 based in either North America or Western Europe.
>
> The results reveal that consumption for this
> group averages around 7 alcoholic beverages per
> week, about 2.5 drinks over the weekly
> consumption of the average American. Though a
> fifth of the group does not drink, more than half
> consume 10 or more alcoholic beverages a week,
> 20% consume 12 or more and 10% consumer 21 or
> more. The largest consumer downed 31 per week.
>
> The researchers are quick to point out the
> obvious - correlation does not equal causation.
> "We are definitely not saying 'drink more to do
> better'," Parker stresses. But he does believe
> that more and better information is needed to
> unravel the observed relationship and the
> "non-scientific activities that affect scientific productivity".
>
> The results support the positive association
> between national per capita beer consumption and
> a country's citations per paper reported
> <http://www.springerlink.com/content/lp34234k59473xkt/>in
> a 2009 paper by Canadian ecologist Christopher
> Lortie, who collaborated with Parker on the current paper.
>
> But they stand in contrast to a
> <http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0030-1299.2008.16551.x/abstract>2008
> survey of Czech ecologists by Thomas Grim, also
> an ecologist. Grim, based at Palacky University
> in the Czech Republic, found the opposite: that
> increased levels of beer consumption were
> associated with lower numbers of citations.
>
> "Because of well documented negative and causal
> effects of ethanol, independently of dose, on
> both mental performance and health, I find it
> unlikely that the Parker et al. finding reflects
> more than a spurious relationship," Grim told Nature News.
>
> Eminent Oxford ecologist Bob May - a lifelong
> teetotaller - also said he did not recognise
> Parker's picture. "My experience is that my
> ecologist friends are not at all heavy drinkers."
>
> Michael Hochberg from the University of
> Montpellier in France speculated on why - if this
> were so - highly cited researchers might be
> pushed to drink more. They might attend more
> functions, be more "stressed out", or they may
> just be "past their heyday and drowning their sorrows", he suggested.
>
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