Hi,

I agree. Climate change comes as a package of various factors and should be
viewed as such.
We should not look at it in a reductionist view. A reductionist view would
be wrong regarding science and
gives deniers a platform to point out certain events. Just my two cents.

Best,
Moritz



2012/4/5 Martin Meiss <[email protected]>

> Hi, Bill H. and Ecologers:
>
>        I accept the scientific evidence that global warming is occurirng,
> but I think we should be careful about pointing to various
> warmer-than-usual events and saying, "Aha, evidence for global warming!"  I
> don't think doing so is statistically valid, and here's an analogy to
> illustrate my reasoning.
>
>       Suppose you had an "honest" coin, which after thousands of flips
> averaged coming up heads 50% of the time and tails 50%.  Now suppose we
> file the rim of the coin on one side to affect its aerodynamics, and after
> thousands more flips we find the ratio is now 49% to 51% in favor of tails.
> This shows the affect of our tampering, just as melting glaciers and other
> evidence COLLECTIVELY indicate global warming.  However, you can't point to
> any one case in which the tossed coin came up tails and say "See, our
> filing did that."  Similarly, a record warm March on the east coast COULD
> happen during a long-term cooling trend, just as a lopsided run of "tails"
> coin tosses could have occurred before we filed the edges.
>
>       Recognizing this distinction between collective evidence and single
> data points is important, not just a quibble.  After all, climate-change
> deniers can comb through data and find some event in the past that is
> warmer than some carefully chosen but corresponding event in the present
> and say, "Aha, cooling!  The data does not support global warming!"
>
>
> Martin M. Meiss
>
> 2012/4/5 Bill Hilton Jr. (RESEARCH) <[email protected]>
>
> > The month of March 2012 was incredibly warm--both day and night--and
> > Mother Nature seemed to respond. Plants and animals of various species
> > showed activity ahead of what the calendar usually dictates, so there may
> > be some long-term effects. To view our photo essay about this phenomenon
> > and some of the organisms involved, please visit our "This Week at Hilton
> > Pond" installment for 19-31 March 2012 at
> > http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek120319.html
> >
> > While there, don't forget to scroll down for a list of birds banded and
> > recaptured, including a rather old American Goldfinch.
> >
> > Happy (Spring) Nature watching!
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> >
> > =========
> >
> > RESEARCH PROGRAM
> > c/o BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
> > Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
> > 1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
> > office & cell (803) 684-5852
> > fax (803) 684-0255
> >
> > Please visit our web sites (courtesy of Comporium.net):
> > Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History at
> > http://www.hiltonpond.org
> > "Operation RubyThroat: The Hummingbird Project" at
> > http://www.rubythroat.org
> >
> > ==================
> >
>



-- 
Moritz S. Schmid, M.Sc./M.I.N.C. student

-EWHALE lab-, Biology and Wildlife Dept., Institute of Arctic Biology,
419 IRVING I, University of Alaska Fairbanks, Fairbanks, AK 99775-7000

Integrated bi-national Master of International Nature Conservation
(M.I.N.C.<http://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/74269.html>) Details: Centre
for Nature Conservation (CNC <http://www.uni-goettingen.de/en/79999.html>),
Faculty of Biology, University of Göttingen, Germany and Isaac Centre for
Nature Conservation
(ICNC<http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/Research-at-Lincoln/Research-centres/Isaac-Centre-for-Nature-Conservation/>),
Faculty of Environment, Society and Design, Lincoln, Christchurch, New
Zealand

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