In my experience, it all depends on the country and how easy funding agencies, research institutions and governments make it. I have experience in several countries: Spain, USA, France and Finland. They each have their good and bad points on that respect. Fore example, while the USA and Canada tend to be pretty good at opening jobs for couples, which helps enormously the two-body problem, I find that some European countries offer better conditions to be a parent. For example, in Finland and Sweden the government offers paid maternity and/or paternity leaves of at least 10 months. Since this is a 'stipend' independent of the scientific fellowship or contract, it essentially means that if they had 3-years of funding, they now will have that + 10 months (i.e. the grant or contract 'slides' forward). Moreover, there are good free or cheap daycare services and even sometimes, daycare or family-housing in field stations. The conditions are so good that I have never seen such a high rate of graduate students pregnant or with children as in those countries... and they are consequentially doing better than average at keeping women in science. Of course, many countries (like Spain, my home-country) fail in all aspects.

Andres Lopez-Sepulcre
Laboratoire d'Ecologie, UMR 7625
Ecole Normale Superieure, Paris
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On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Rachel Guy wrote:

I've been following the debate Simone Whitecloud inspired concerning babies in the field. This brought to mind something I was told when I was pursuing my B.S. in Wildlife Ecology:

"You can be a scientist, a spouse or a parent. Two of these things you can be simultaneously great at doing, while the third will suffer." I'm not sure I entirely agree with this statement, but I have seen personal relationships tried by professional obligations and professional obligations tried by personal obligations. Particularly in a field that often demands long absences and irregular hours, I can see how this would particularly be true. Though, I have also seen faculty and research scientists with families that seem pretty stable and happy. Is there any substance to this paradigm, and if so, are there realistic ways in which we can change them? I'd love to hear the communities' thoughts on this as it is something that I have often reflected on as I've progressed through my career. Can we have it all? What are the key differences between the ones that are seemingly able to do it and the one's where the challenges become too great?

Rachel Guy
Project Coordinator, Research Assistant



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