Hello All I agree completely with Wayne PS...that is why is time for researchers to invest in science communication and have their own production :) There are more and more researchers investing in learning video skills and use them to spread their work. Regards Nuno
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Wayne Tyson <landr...@cox.net> wrote: > Ok, what's your plan? > > WT > > PS: My wife got conned by a production company doing work for the > Discovery Channel several years ago, thinking they were doing legitimate > scientific journalism, and I got conned into shooting some video for them > (for which I never got a cent). Never since and never again. That's our > contribution--saying no to the production companies' requests for > interviews and footage. Y'all may have noticed how they (used to) start off > with some legitimate scientists sincerely believing that they were serving > legitimate science education, but ended up being cut into a pseudoscience > film. Some have repeated the error and some have refused to touch any kind > of "educational" filmmaking, as the scientist has no control over the final > outcome. How many people on this list have gotten "taken" by these > smooth-talking production companies and have consented to be interviewed > for what turned out to be something that they would never have consented to > be a part of, had they known what the outcome would be in advance? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "malcolm McCallum" < > malcolm.mccallum@HERPCONBIO.**ORG <malcolm.mccal...@herpconbio.org>> > To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Bigfoot footage in TX (gag me). > > > Look, these folks are posing as researchers, sucking up soft money >> (yes, they are) to do this stuff, getting publicity on such channels >> as Discovery. Now, when a bunch of yahoo charlatans start doing this >> sort of thing it degrades science by confusing the public about what >> is and is not science, who is and is not doing science, and what is >> and is not credible evidence. When you degrade science in this manner >> it also interferes with all aspects of society because now logic is >> overcome with nonsense and the more nonsense is promoted as logic, the >> more people who ultimately start to think in illogical ways leading to >> poor decisions in all aspects of life, including politics and cast >> votes. When illogical paths are taken in choosing candidates and >> casting votes, we end up with poor candidates who approve non-science >> and anti-science bills. >> >> THese little things do matter. They are a virus, a plague on society >> that is every bit as damaging to its inner workings as political >> corruption. They must be stomped out and scientists should come out >> in force and do so by very clearly, adamantly, directly and bluntly >> discounting their claims as junk (not junk science) and charlatanism. >> >> Malcolm >> >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Wayne Tyson <landr...@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> Malcolm and Ecolog, >>> >>> Ignore them? (They want publicity.) >>> >>> When I was in the Forest Service in Northern California in the late >>> fifties >>> and early sixties (I've forgotten just when all the bigfoot hoopla at the >>> Hoopa Reservation took place), my boss said the knew the guy who >>> "discovered" the prints, and he said he was just the kind of nutcase that >>> would come up with that kind of thing. >>> >>> Maybe the Texans are frustrated snipe-hunters? >>> >>> WT >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "malcolm McCallum" >>> <malcolm.mccallum@HERPCONBIO.**ORG <malcolm.mccal...@herpconbio.org>> >>> To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> >>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:11 PM >>> >>> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Bigfoot footage in TX (gag me). >>> >>> >>> I am very familiar with the Texas Bigfoot society folks having got in >>>> a tuff with them back in the early part of the decade. They are total >>>> charlatans, see this video of a bigfoot from the twitter of Melba >>>> Ketchum. >>>> Is there anything we can do to discredit these folks with the public? >>>> We really need to address this and make it obvious they are literally >>>> making stuff up!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=khHSX3ZYaKI<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khHSX3ZYaKI> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Malcolm L. McCallum >>>> Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry >>>> School of Biological Sciences >>>> University of Missouri at Kansas City >>>> >>>> Managing Editor, >>>> Herpetological Conservation and Biology >>>> >>>> "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - >>>> Allan Nation >>>> >>>> 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert >>>> 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, >>>> and pollution. >>>> 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction >>>> MAY help restore populations. >>>> 2022: Soylent Green is People! >>>> >>>> The Seven Blunders of the World (Mohandas Gandhi) >>>> Wealth w/o work >>>> Pleasure w/o conscience >>>> Knowledge w/o character >>>> Commerce w/o morality >>>> Science w/o humanity >>>> Worship w/o sacrifice >>>> Politics w/o principle >>>> >>>> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >>>> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >>>> contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >>>> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >>>> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >>>> destroy all copies of the original message. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2639/5605 - Release Date: 02/15/13 >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Malcolm L. McCallum >> Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry >> School of Biological Sciences >> University of Missouri at Kansas City >> >> Managing Editor, >> Herpetological Conservation and Biology >> >> "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - >> Allan Nation >> >> 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert >> 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, >> and pollution. >> 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction >> MAY help restore populations. >> 2022: Soylent Green is People! >> >> The Seven Blunders of the World (Mohandas Gandhi) >> Wealth w/o work >> Pleasure w/o conscience >> Knowledge w/o character >> Commerce w/o morality >> Science w/o humanity >> Worship w/o sacrifice >> Politics w/o principle >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >> contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2639/5607 - Release Date: 02/16/13 >> >> -- Nuno Miguel Negrões Soares Post-Doc Researcher CESAM & Biology Department- Aveiro University Natural History Museum Maputo- Mozambique https://sites.google.com/site/unidadevidaselvagem/
