Homosexuals are both male and female. And Lesbians do indeed have children.

Leslie M. Adams, Ph.D.
Adjunct Professor of Plant Systematics
Professional Training and Development 
University of New Hampshire
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Adjunct Associate Professor of Environmental Sustainability
School of Undergraduate Studies (online)
University of Maryland University College 

Adjunct Professor of Life Sciences
New Hampshire Institute of Art

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
created them." 
    - Albert Einstein
-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality

The statement that "homosexuals have a fitness of zero," which is a true
statement, implies nothing about desires, which cannot be known. It implies
everything about reproductive rate, which, in a homosexual, is zero. Nothing
about this topic, which is scientific in nature, should give offense,
borderline or otherwise.

Tom Culliney

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Schuler
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality

Many of you seem to be implying that a "high" frequency of homosexuals in
human populations must imply that there is an "inclusive fitness benefit"
for heterosexual individuals, and therefore you are implying that there is
an adaptive explanation to homosexuality. This simply isn't true. Sexuality
is complex, and we know that multiple genes interact to affect sexual
preferences, sexuality, and sexual traits. Epistasis with linkage to a
desirable trait can lead to the increased and maintained frequency of any
trait that lowers the fitness of a population (whether it is ~3% or 10%
doesn't matter). Any population genetics textbooks will have great examples
of this. We know that there is individual variation in sexual preferences,
even if we only divide it into 3 categories (straight, bisexual and
homosexual); that is enough to maintain a frequency of individuals that are
100% homosexual. The 100% homosexual group can have a fitness of zero (non
reproductive) and never offer any fitness benefits to other individuals in
the population. See the sickle cell anemia example and malaria.

The fact that there is variation in genes of sexual preference leads us to
the conclusion that there can easily be variation in the phenotype. Social
scientists have known this for a long time, it is called the Kinsey Scale
(see more here <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale>). Now that we
have confirmed variation in sexual behavior, please stop assuming that all
individuals who associate with "homosexual" behavior do not want to have
children, and that all those who associate with heterosexual behavior have
never acted on an alternative desire. The statement that "homosexuals have a
fitness of zero" implies that you know that all homosexuals have no desire
to have children, which simply is not true, and is borderline offensive.

I believe Wayne's original question has been answered, homosexual behaviors
exist in other animals.

Matt




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