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On May 27, 2015 5:55 PM, "Stephen L. Young" <sl...@cornell.edu> wrote:

> Wow! I couldn¹t think of any worse advise. If I had followed these
> guidelines I would have not been anywhere near where I am today and would
> have not met some of the most inspiring, motivating, creative, and smart
> people, who have become some of my best friends and colleagues.
>
> Steve
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> On 5/27/15, 6:56 PM, "Aaron T. Dossey" <bugoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >1) I wouldn't go to grad school for science these days. Universities and
> >faculty are far too exploitative and the career opportunities requiring
> >a graduate degree are far too few (especially in academia and
> >government).  Best to get out there and get a job and experience with
> >those years, or even start your own organization or company.
> >You may be interested in the articles and "Notes" posted on this page:
> >https://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Postdoc-Union/275402225908673
> >
> >2) It is the responsibility (one of an ever waning list) of the faculty
> >boss (referred to some as "mentor" or "adviser") to provide projects
> >(well funded ones) for their students, then spend time TEACHING them the
> >projects, techniques and science behind the projects.   I would be
> >suspicious of any lab that requires you to come up with your own
> >project, especially if they require you to come with your own funding.
> >
> >3) If you do have project ideas, best to pursue them on your own time
> >and well separate from the lab and/or involvement of any university
> >faculty member.  Basically if you know what you want to do and more or
> >less how to do it, you don't need grad school:  you need
> >resources/facilities to pursue it.  So, find (sit down for this)
> >COLLABORATORS (not bosses) and some sort of funding or access to lab and
> >equipment you need.  You can even try crowdfunding, or like I said,
> >start a company or non-profit.
> >
> >4) If you DO dive into graduate school for some reason:  selecting a
> >decent ethical faculty boss who actually cares about YOUR career (very
> >rare) will be your most critical decision/task.  the following are
> >criteria and methods you should use: a) talk to as many people IN the
> >lab and especially FORMER lab members as possible, b) ask the faculty
> >boss how joining their lab will help your career, what you will BE
> >TAUGHT, what projects are available and what FUNDING is driving those
> >projects (and listen closely to the answers), c) ask if you would be
> >allowed to pursue independent side projects without the faculty boss'
> >involvement (ie: do a side project that's your idea with other students
> >or other labs in your own side collaboration - this is critical to build
> >toward an independent career in science, which is the main reason to go
> >to grad school in science at all).  This means publishing at least one
> >paper without that faculty member and possibly even applying for a grant
> >or two (toward the end of your term in the lab) without their name on
> >it.  If they say no, immediately find another lab.  While many will tell
> >you no one will do this and this is unusual and you shouldn't expect
> >this freedom, that is nothing short of a lie.  If you accept that lie,
> >you will find out the hard way when you try to pursue your real career
> >after grad school.  d) Be SURE the lab or department will pay you a FULL
> >stipend you can live on AND health insurance for at least 5 years while
> >you complete your degree. e) be sure that no one in the labs you are
> >considering has taken more than 5 years to finish their Ph.D. or 3 years
> >for Masters.  f) if you determine that a graduate degree is ABSOLUTELY
> >REQUIRED for your career goals (think about this carefully) then do a
> >Ph.D. rather than a masters.  g) I do not recommend young professors
> >without tenure, or working for older or higher ranking professors that
> >also have adminstrative appointments on top of their professor job
> >(things like also being the "director of the center for X" etc. I
> >consider moonlighting and almost a guarantee that you'll never see them,
> >which means you'll never learn anything or be taught anything by them
> >which is the entire point of grad school). h) Also have a frank
> >discussion about how authorship is handled in the lab AND if you are
> >expected to write grants (don't do it if you won't be listed as a
> >co-PI), and even about how patents will be handled... and get those
> >things IN WRITING!
> >
> >5) Do not be placated, pacified, bribed, distracted or fooled by
> >anything else.  a LITTLE higher salary, a boss that smiles a lot,
> >showering you with compliments, students (especially early grad students
> >or undergrads) who say things like "they are SO nice to me, they let me
> >go to conferences" (something they should all offer by default, at least
> >1 conference per year for you to present at).. etc...  can distract from
> >the more important issue: how going to grad school will benefit your
> >career and get you quickly into an independent science career within 2-3
> >years after graduating (max).
> >
> >Those are some good solid things that should take you a long way toward
> >your next set of decisions which will be critical for your career
> >success (or lack of it) for some years to come.  What you decide to do
> >at this stage of your career will have long lasting consequences.
> >
> >Let me know if you have further questions!
> >ATD of ATB
> >
> >
> >On 5/27/2015 2:21 PM, Emily Mydlowski wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm delving into the graduate school search (MS and PhD programs) quite
> >> heavily and am seeking advice regarding approaching faculty with a
> >>research
> >> project. The system I'm interested in working on is that which has many
> >> unanswered, interesting questions I would love to pursue. From a faculty
> >> perspective, is proposing a project topic (too) bold of a move to a
> >> potential advisor?
> >>
> >> Any advice would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Emily Mydlowski
> >> Northern Michigan University
> >
> >
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