>Please read the following as written by someone frustrated with the loose
>language and lack of communication happening, rather than as an attack on
>people with chemical sensitives.  I keep trying to discuss ethics and all I
>get back is an education on chemical sensitivity.  I appreciate the
>opportunity to learn about it, but I was hoping for a dialogue on ethics
>and nobody seems willing to.
>
Frankly Eric, I don't particularly want to discuss my personal ethics -
mostly I try to just get on with applying them


>Perhaps you thought I was being sarcastic or something.  Please reread my
>original post; I have a few times and can't find what you are objecting to.
> It was not an attack on people with MCS.  I seriously wanted to discuss
>the ethical question AND STILL NOBODY WILL!

MCS is not an ethical position, its an illness that needs the best
appropriate treatment available

>To what degree is it okay to harm the environment to prevent our personal
>difficulty in maintaining enough functionality to consider yourself human?
>Yes, I'm being sarcastic now.  But I hope you can see the question for the
>words (forest / trees).  AND I STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN AN ANSWER TO THE
>QUESTION.
>

asking ethical questions is not always the most appropriate response to a
physical problem, and it certainly isn't the most appropriate response when
someone hurts. If someone needed an urgent lift to hospital would you ask
them to debate the ethics of car ownership?
>
>I thank you for some clarification of you ethical position.  You didn't
>directly answer the question, but perhaps you said enough for me to venture
>some further clarification.  From this I take it that you feel you are
>already more "earth friendly" than you ethically need to be.  You seem to
>be doing a lot towards being "earth friendly", and as I said before, you
>are to be commended on it.

Generous of you Eric, I'm sure Cyndi is grateful.

 but I do have a strong personal
>feeling (though perhaps an intellectual one, if that's possible) that our
>unsustainable society is a threat to much of the life on the planet.  It is
>from a feeling of "we are all in this together" / "we are one" that I want
>to pursue an ecopath.
>
personal feelings are not intellectual ones - you have to decide which sort
of feelings you have Eric and whether your ethics are emotionally or
intellectually based or a bit of both. Of course we are in it together -
but there are times when someone wants a physical answer to a physical
problem and times when an intellectual discussion is fine. I didn't join in
with Jeff and Dawnskye because I had other things to do with my time.
Frankly the discussion of Stuarts problem at an ethical level annoyed me
into responding. But I have had more than enough of chasing around in this
particular circle. Ontario is obviously a difficult place to build a safe
house, I wish I could help

kathryn

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