Paul,

I'm curious. By pap do you mean that the proof-of-concept didn't
actually take place? or that it didn't work? of that the companies who
participated in it are bogus? of that the ebXML specifications that
were used in the POC don't exist? Or, do you just not like anything to
do with XML? or what?

I don't believe that Ken intimated the ebXML POC was pap. He just did
what he does extremely well....made a couple of cogent observations
and then posed some very important questions and challenges that as
yet have not been answered...and this is after a couple of years or
more of posing these questions.

So....how does your assertion of so much pap further any intelligent
discussion as to pros/cons, what's real and what's bogus?

Happy Holidays!

Rachel


For once I agree with Ken. That was so much pap ....

Regards,
Paul

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Steel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: ebXML Passes Critical Interoperability Milestone


| > Rachel Foerster wrote:
| >
| > [Image]
| > To in San Francisco the ebXML initiative conducted a major
| > proof-of-concept clearly demonstrating the interoperability of the
| > framework specifications being developed.
| >
| > You can read the press releases about the details on this major
| > milestone and information about the announcement for an early
release
| > of the ebXML framework specificiations at
| > http://www.rfa-edi.com/ebxml_initiative.htm
|
|
| All vendors and consultants, I note.
|
| Where are the end user testimonials?
|
| Is a report on a "test" by vested interests really a "proof of
| concept"?  What was tested? What did it prove (omitting the hype)?
|
| Why call it a "major milestone"? Is it really any advance on the
| euphemisms of the last 4 years? If so, please explain.
|
| Why not dump the rhetoric and put in a few details like where the
| benefits are for end users?
|
|
|
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