Just think how much more efficient it would be for manufacturing, distribution 
and retail if everyone wore size 9 shoes.  
 
I don't think that there are all that many conspiracies out there.  
 
My company accomidates all manner of customer specific demands because our 
sales force never wants to say no based on a vague (to them) objection from IT. 
 I recall recently that a well know retail exchange demanded everyone join and 
pay a high membership fee, the objection was clear and many companies balked. 
My point isn't that the demand was any more of less outrageous, just that the 
immediate impact and cost was clear.
 
The bottom line is that suppliers are required to integrate with the customers 
systems and processes and different customers have different requirements.  
Isn't that what EDI is basically about?  That is the objection I've had to the 
new technology evangalists who haven't actually implemented.  They think this 
can be solved with a new tool. 
 
If EDI is dead, there a lot of zombies out there.  Long live the living dead.
 
Tim   


Travis Truax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I see that as very different. You're 
talking about supply & demand.
I'm talking about fraud:

Retailer has existing relationship with supplier.
Software company approaches retailer with proposition.
      (Free software/service for retailer.)
      (Possibly "incentive" to decision makers at retailer.)
      (Retailer must require suppliers to comply.)
Retailer implements new system.
Suppliers follow or close down.

If you consider the commercial bombardment of nutrasweet ads
brainwashing, the situations would be closer to the same, because
the "demand" in that instance of "supply & demand" was
heavily manipulated. I just see it as advertisement.

Travis- 


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Funny, but not unheard of.

Customers are bombarded by commercials that Nutrasweet is healthy for you
and show you pictures of how thin people are who use Nutrasweet.  Who can
deny that?  Customers go into their local fastfood demanding Nutrasweet.
Fastfood supplier has to go and buy nutrasweet now.

Kids Toys would be a even better example.

-Steve




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To continue with your analogy, I would say asking to hold the onions is not
the same thing,
but it would be to refuse to purchase their Big Mac and every other fast
food chain's burgers
until they loaded it with brand X's mustard, right after brand X gives you
$100 and a 5 gallon
lifetime supply of mustard. :)

Travis-


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:51 PM
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These customer supplier relationship issues aren't specific to EDI.  When
you order your Big Mac from McDonalds and ask for no onions you are doing
the same thing to them on a much smaller scale.

I think suppliers need to keep better track of these specific customer
costs.  What happens alot of times are by the time a project get's to EDI
the contract pricing is already negotiated, and the sales and IT
organizations are different departments that don't communicate these extra
costs.  So it becomes a game of how much can the supplier bear before they
realize and scream to renegotiate the contract.   Sometimes these costs are
fractions compared to the actual revenue being generated from a customer
contract.

Regards,
-Steve






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