The trail got to a silly stage and it isn't going away so;
- The original thread was around standards, use there of, standards bodies, distribution and copyright issues. I posted the info I found to try to help the person track down where to go to get distribution rights. Bottom line was that if DISA is a black hole, he can go to ANSI and they should be able to guide him to the right parties to legally publish or distribute X12 information. There wasn't a shred of "technology" in the discussion. Standards attempt to provide guidelines on how to use various forms of technology. They are not technology of themselves. - X12 vs X.12 my apologies for the typo. It is mis-stated as X.12 many times and places, I should know better, it is a common error. Thank you for the correction Mike. - I corrected myself in stating ANSI accredits standards committees. Thanks for confirming it. Mike you said DISA does not have a formal relationship with ANSI. Unless the info online is incorrect or outdated, DISA DOES have a formal relationship with ANSI. As I quoted from their web site: "Data Interchange Standards Association. The secretariat of the ANSI ASC X12 committee, which administers the ANSI X12 standards." How can they be the secretariat of the ANSI ASC X12 committee and not have a formal relationship? Is this committee disbanded? Even then, DISA & ANSI would have some form of relationship. - "Pan American EDIFACT board no longer exists" - Guess the website needs a refresh. Just proves you can't trust info you find on the web. :-) Thanks for the update. I went and did the research as the original post piqued my interest. No one had clearly explained the situation so I posted what I found. It was all cut and paste so I apologize if the information is out of date. Mike, if you have a current online resource we could reference with definitive information I would appreciate a link. Apologies to all for adding any new fuel to the spam fire on a thread that should have died awhile ago. Regards, James Hatcher At 11:00 AM 1/18/2005 -0600, Mike Rawlins wrote: >Really William, how can you tell from there whether or not my shorts are >tied up in a bunch? ;^) > >Seems to me that when the sole point of someone's posting is to clarify >terminology and they get it all wrong, that it really shouldn't be left >uncorrected... > >Cheers, > >At 02:19 PM 1/15/2005 -0500, William J. Kammerer wrote: > > >Mike, don't get your shorts all tied up in a bunch over a matter of > >terminology. That's like Sylvia Webb picking on me for not adding the > >"-5" to ISO 15000. These kind of flames must be what Rich Legge is > >referring to. > > > >After all, we have George W. Bush saying "...there's rumors on the > >Internets..." > >(<http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/v/rumorsinternets.htm) > .>http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/v/rumorsinternets.htm). > > > >I don't expect the President of the United States to know technical > >details about the 'Net - or even what it's called. And after listening > >to C-level executives for awhile now, there's no longer any surprise at > >the awkward mixture of singular and plural. These are niggling details > >that are beneath the dignity of POTUS. It's like knowing the names of > >heads of state from Third World countries. Or Canada. > > > >William J. Kammerer > >Novannet, LLC. > >Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA > >+1 (614) 487-0320 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Rawlins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 12:11 PM > >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] EDI Standard Table Data > > > > > > > >At 12:25 PM 1/14/2005 +1000, James Hatcher wrote: > > > > >DISA is part of ANSI. > > > >No. X12 is an ANSI accredited standards committee. (And it's X12, not > >X.12). DISA has no formal relationship with ANSI, per se, and only > >relates > >to ANSI on behalf of X12 and it's other client organizations. > > > > > > >Data Interchange Standards Association. The secretariat of the ANSI ASC > > >X12 > > >committee, which administers the ANSI X12 standards. > > > > > >Data Interchange Standards Association. Secretariat of the ASC X12 > > >Committee. Also serves as the secretariat for the Pan American EDIFACT > > >Board. > > > >Old information, and no longer correct. The Pan American EDIFACT Board > >no > >longer exists. > > > > >Data Interchange Standards Association - in the U.S., the standards > > >body > > >that defines EDI standards. In Europe it is UN/EDIFACT. > > > >Again, incorrect. X12 defines EDI standards in the U.S. This is done > >internationally (not just in Europe) by UN/CEFACT, who maintains the > >UN/EDIFACT standard. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting > >www.rawlinsecconsulting.com > >Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003) > >www.awprofessional.com/titles/0321154940 > > > > > > > > > >. > >Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: > ><SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > >Access the list online > at: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L > > > >Yahoo! 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