Any VAN that interconnects with another already knows the others' customers, or a good number of them. Anyway, my offer still stands: if Eric or Steve talk the VANs into providing their trading partner information, I'll build the "global" directory. It won't be possible to "troll the Novannet directory for targets to poach" because you'll have to satisfy some relatively specific search criteria (e.g., DUNS, Tax ID, company name, etc.) in order to extract information. If a VAN already knew that much information about the trading partner, then it could have poached it long ago!
I'm offering to do this out of the goodness of my heart. I love the EDI community and want to give something back. Novannet will offer free access to one and all via HTML. Later, a fee-based Web Services option may be offered. You don't even have to sign in or register - you can immediately do searches by name, capability, location, industry, etc. William J. Kammerer Novannet Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel Foerster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'EDI-L Mailing List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 01 February, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts One problem that I forgot to mention, though, is that each individual VAN will most likely not want to post their customer list - they'll just want to poach other VAN's customer lists. My personal opinion is that any VAN would be nuts to make their customer (trading partner list) publically available. What other reasonably sane company would do so? Rachel _____ From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:40 AM To: 'Stephen Lee'; 'EDI-L Mailing List' Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts Well, one incentive that I can think of is that with all of the VAN's customers (trading partners) now publically available from Novannet the VAN's could then troll the Novannet directory for targets to poach as new customers. Great lead generation list! Rachel Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd. 39432 North Avenue Beach Park, IL 60099 Voice: 847-872-8070 Fax: 847-589-8081 _____ From: Stephen Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:38 AM To: EDI-L Mailing List Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts It's winter and I'm bored. I'll play. We have one problem. What's the incentive for the VANs? Is Doug from Kleindschmitt still on this list? Regards, -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2005 08:14 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts There's no need to bring in Dun and Bradstreet or Hoovers. Tell you all what: Novannet will arrange to have built and will host an EDI Trading Partner directory. But none of this stuff where people self-enter in their own data - UDDI already exists for that. There's no incentive for folks to maintain that information on a continual basis. I don't want some half-assed directory. I want clean, reliable data, preferably from the original source: the VAN. I want complete ISA information, connectivity options, transaction IDs, DUNS nos., demographic information, the works. The only thing Eric (or Steve) has to do is obtain the machine readable directories from the VANs and clearinghouses (at least 2 major ones and 5 lesser ones, in order to achieve critical mass), and get their agreement to update the stuff on a regular basis. The data can be sent to Novannet within an X12 838 Trading Partner Profile Transaction Set, or XML, or whatever. I'm not picky. I will arrange to do the rest, including possibly bringing in a big vendor or NIST to donate an ebXML registry. We can handle the details offline. What do you say? William J. Kammerer Novannet Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2005 01:22 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts "In this service, a company would list its supported transactions, VAN connections, and trading partners." I forsee people being reluctant as sometimes their trading partners are basically their list of their biggest customers, and the beauty of EDI is you can support any transaction, alot of vendors basically support any EDI transaction the customer requires. Or even companies are disparate my edi contact for a certain company may be in a certain division in a certain country, not a central edi contact. I still don't know if a grassroots effort spawned off the EDI list would be encompassing enough to be highly utilized. I think it would work better if somebody like Duns and Bradstreet or Hoovers could maintained this. Regards, -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "eric_christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2005 02:48 PM Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <MISC> EDI Coordinator Trading Partner Contacts Just to clarify one point, LinkedIn is designed to help people find additional connections, it's not a invitation-only club. You have the ability to accept any request and to post your e-mail address publicly. The purpose of the service is to identify who you know that knows someone who you may want to contact. Check it out at www.linkedin.com. Now that I think about it, we need a LinkedIn-type service for EDI trading partners. A list of not just who does EDI, but who does EDI with whom. In this service, a company would list its supported transactions, VAN connections, and trading partners. There are 1,500+ subscribers to this message board. Taking 30 percent out for analysts, vendors, duplicate companies, leaves perhaps 1,000 distinct companies who are conducting EDI. If everyone would contribute their list of trading partners (let's assume five per subscriber), we would instantly have a trading partner connection database of 5,000 (assuming no overlaps). Harbinger built something like this for the automotive industry, AutoChain Online. The objective was to allow participants in the automotive supply chain, suppliers and OEMs, to track e- commerce readiness of their suppliers. Does anything like this exist today? Anybody want to help build it? . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
