Yeah, we could split out a separate sales order for each SDQ without too 
much trouble.  The problem is in re-assembling all of those sales orders 
into a single ASN and a single invoice per PO.

Travis Truax wrote:
> Mike,
>       We use MAS200 here, and have the same problem. However we worked
> around it like some of the other posts mentioned by parsing through the SDQ
> and making separate orders. Luckily we don't have to handle them very often
> with that hack. 
>       The particular customer that sends the infrequent SDQ POs allows us
> to invoice them separately, though. 
>       You've got to love those 4-digit address code fields in MAS. GLNs
> fit really well! ;)
>
> Travis-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] To SDQ or not SDQ...
>
>
> This is exactly the same situation I'm trying to handle with one of my 
> clients. They're a small supplier to several retail chains, and one of 
> them recently announced they were going to start sending multiple 
> ship-tos (via SDQ) on each PO. My client's order management system, 
> MAS90 creates one sales order per delivery location (at least in the way 
> that they use it). The SDQ would have caused us a *lot* of heartburn in 
> trying to re-assemble single invoices and ASNs per PO from multiple 
> sales orders. Fortunately for us, the buyer backed off from using the SDQ.
>
> The bottom line is that for many suppliers this really isn't a mapping 
> problem. It's an issue with the order management systems.
>
> Mike
>
> John Fiorino wrote:
>   
>> Another thing to consider is whether your suppliers can in fact even 
>> handle
>> an SDQ type order. Since you now send 1 store per PO, they more than 
>> likely
>> create one customer order within their systems and then return one ASN and
>> one invoice for that order back to you. If their systems can’t handle
>> multiple ship-to’s within one order they’d continue to create multiple
>> sales-orders per ship-to in the SDQ. I’m just guessing, but this would
>> result in one invoice per SDQ referring to the same PO number you sent in
>> the first place.
>>
>> Can your new host application handle multiple invoices for each SDQ order
>> you initially sent? For that matter, how does your new merchandising 
>> system
>> handle inbound invoices for these orders? ASN’s?
>>
>> Although ‘the customer is always right’, and you can impose your new
>> standards on them and insist that they comply by your go-live date
>> (resulting in many on this board making a living out of it…) I prefer 
>> taking
>> the ‘KISS” approach.
>>
>> Since your suppliers already handle your current PO standard, keep it 
>> simple
>> and create multiple 850’s with the store number appended to the PO# as
>> others have suggested. This would have the least impact on your go-live
>> date. One less thing to test. Implementing a new merchandising system is
>> hell as it is (been there done that many,many times…).
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth.
>>
>> John Fiorino
>> CompuSys Solutions
>> Systems Integration Specialist
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>]On 
>> Behalf Of Jayne
>> Gillette
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 18:29
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [EDI-L] To SDQ or not SDQ...
>>
>> Dear Group:
>>
>> Due to the upcoming implementation (next summer) of a new merchandising
>> system, we are reviewing the current format of our 850s and 860s (as 
>> well as
>> several other EDI documents) to determine where changes are needed.
>>
>> Under the current system, we issue purchase orders with a unique PO number
>> for each ship-to location (i.e., 1 PO number = 1 ship-to location). In the
>> new world, the same purchase order number could be used for multiple 
>> ship-to
>> locations.
>>
>> We know we could change our 850 / 860 EDI format to utilize the SDQ format
>> like this:
>>
>> BEG segment: PO #12345
>> LIN segment: Item #ABC, Total Quantity 4000
>> SDQ segment: Ship-to Location 1, quantity 2000; Ship-to Location 2, 
>> quantity
>> 1500; Ship-to Location 3, quantity 500
>>
>> ...but, we are hoping to minimize the impact to our EDI trading 
>> partners as
>> much as possible, so as not to jeopardize the go-live date for the new
>> merchandising system.
>>
>> Since we do not currently issue SDQ-format 850s and 860s, we are 
>> considering
>> sending the documents in the same EDI format we send today, which for the
>> same order described above would look like this:
>>
>> 850 TRANSACTION #1:
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> BEG segment: PO #12345
>> N1 segment: Ship-to Location 1
>> LIN segment: Item #ABC, Quantity 2000
>>
>> 850 TRANSACTION #2:
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> BEG segment: PO #12345 (same PO number as transaction #1)
>> N1 segment: Ship-to Location 2
>> LIN segment: Item #ABC, Quantity 1500
>>
>> 850 TRANSACTION #3:
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> BEG segment: PO #12345 (same PO number as transactions #1 and #2)
>> N1 segment: Ship-to Location 3
>> LIN segment: Item #ABC, Quantity 500
>>
>> The EDI format is the same as what we send today, but the difference 
>> is the
>> same purchase order number could now appear in multiple 850s / 860s, for
>> individual ship-to locations.
>>
>> We are being told we really can't consider doing this because 
>> manufacturers
>> can't process "duplicate" PO numbers such as that described above. 
>> Based on
>> your experience / knowledge, is it true that "duplicate" PO numbers like
>> this will cause major problems in manufacturers' order entry / shipping /
>> invoicing / etc. systems?
>>
>> As always, thanks for all your help and advice!
>> Jayne
>>
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>
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