Minor correction to Klaus' statements: "But for a moment, just to show how quickly this figure mushrooms, let's assume it was retro-active for demonstration purpose. Most X12 commercial translator support the majority, if not all, of the X12 standards, for the 005xxx and 006xxx sets, applying such a maintenance fee for this year, besides the $800 for the current set, it would also require 9 x $160, a total of $1754. With each new release that figure will increase by another $160. Boy, what a "cash cow" that is."
As far as I know most commercial translator vendors don't buy the equivalent of the standards on CD. They buy the "table data", which is priced at $15,000 for members and $7,500 for non-members. The 20% annual fee for those products comes to $3,000 and $1,500 respectively. Mike ----------------------------------------- Michael C. Rawlins, Senior Software Engineer, GXS Sent from personal account On 6/30/2013 1:12 PM, Klaus-Dieter Naujok wrote: > > > On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Leah Halpin wrote: > > > I would join my esteemed colleague Klaus-Dieter in asking for an > explanation of this change in policy that provides any actual value > for the annual fee. > > Leah, personally I don't care what DISA (X12) uses as argument(s) for > their table data pricing. I don't question Mikes' account, it's Déjà > vu for me. I was part of the original discussion, many many years ago, > by the X12 StC when they agreed to bump up the table data price. It > was the argument that most of those buying the table data never > participated in the development but benefited through their product > sales, and therefore should paying much more then X12 members. > > At that time I argued against it, making the point that in the end it > will always be the users that will buy the higher price. Further, as > we have seen over and over again, standards that price themselves too > high may end up of becoming less relevant, especially if there are > "free" standards available in the same domain area. We will see in > time if the new pricing policy will have a negative effect on > implementations. > > > Which, if it applies going forward, will mean 20% per version per > year, which will become less trivial as time rolls on. > > Agree. Since the new pricing statement reads "Beginning with 006050, > the price covers the use of the ASC X12 EDI Standard 006050 (Product) > for one year....", we are lucky that it is not retro-active. > > But for a moment, just to show how quickly this figure mushrooms, > let's assume it was retro-active for demonstration purpose. Most X12 > commercial translator support the majority, if not all, of the X12 > standards, for the 005xxx and 006xxx sets, applying such a maintenance > fee for this year, besides the $800 for the current set, it would also > require 9 x $160, a total of $1754. With each new release that figure > will increase by another $160. Boy, what a "cash cow" that is. > > Lucky :-) for those that require those tables, for now it is only > $800, but with each release that cost per year will increase and as > Leah said "it will become less tribal." > > Klaus > > ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: edi-l-dig...@yahoogroups.com edi-l-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: edi-l-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/