>>>>> "k" == kenmlin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    k> Sorry I pissed everyone off.  My argument is more relevant to
    k> teaching introductory statistics course to non-stat majors who
    k> might not have access to stat packages at their own department
    k> or when they leave school.  I felt that teaching Excel is
    k> beneficial in a sense that they might actually be able to use
    k> what they learned since Excel's more readily available.  I also
    k> found that I had next to no time to cover the software while I
    k> was teaching intro stat course.

    k> I understand that it's very important for many of you to teach
    k> stat package because it's what you are familiar with and you
    k> have access to it.  (The stat dept I belonged to didn't have
    k> the budget for a decent computer lab so I always had to come up
    k> with ways to work around with the lack of resources.) I
    k> apologize for being practical.  I myself is now a SAS
    k> professional but I think differently if I am teaching.

There are plenty of reasonable FREE packages, ViSta and R come to
mind.  

ViSta is click-and-point, with a number of nice features; R needs a
bit (MUCH!) more hand-holding, but pays off with the ability to do
much, much more when understood.

best,
-tony

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