On 14 Dec 2002 05:30:59 -0600, Brian Sandle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip, various stuff]
> 
> But if you were hurrying, and just looked at the calculation example for
> Pearson product moment correlation, you would not see the *assumptions*
> you make when using it. Yes you would see that you use it when you have 
> actual scores attained by each subject, rather than just who is better 
> than who. And you would see you were working with who is better than who, 
> without knowing the scores, in Spearman's rank correlation.

To this statistician,  the use here of the word  'assumptions' 
seems unique.  Yes, when we have certain data -- ranks -- we 
get the Spearman when we compute the Pearson.
We can compute a Pearson correlation regardless of 
assumptions about outliers, etc.,  and what we sacrifice 
might be (a) the test where we can rely on p-levels, and 
(b) a test on 'something else' - such as, ranks.

Computers make this all so much simpler.  That is, I think I
now prefer to drop all the special names when the r's
being the usual Pearson.  Instead,  I talk about doing a
'rank-transformation' to the data;  and whether that is 
desirable or useful or damaging.

[ snip]
> You use the Spearman test if you do not have scores, but if you have the 
> scores, why bother with the Pearson test, because you can use the Spearman 
> anyway, and if you are working by hand, it is about 1/3 the work. Why? 
> More to it?

Beg-pardon -- Who works by hand?

I will second the suggestion that you drop the subject, or 
at least, take sci.stat.edu  off the line for newsgroups, if 
there is not a statistical question.

-- 
Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
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