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dennis roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>actually, p values are rather useless (i am almost prepared to say 
>"useless") since, it would be the RARE case when the null is REALLY exactly 
>true

>thus, in 99.9999% of the cases ... we KNOW the null is not true so, setting 
>some cutoff for rejection and then actually rejecting the null ... what has 
>this added to our knowledge?

>and, p values don't speak to the notion of the null being "approximately" true 

I do not see any way to do this other than a decision
theoretic approach; how much weight do we give to a given
action in a given state of nature?  This is what an
approach to consistent behavior yields; if one wants to
call the weight loss time prior probability, go ahead,
but this is not necessary.

AFAIK, I know of one paper on this, written by me more than
30 years ago.  I can add a little; if the region in which
one wants to accept the null is small compared with the
behavior of the likelihood function, it can be well
approximated by a decision approach to testing the point
null, but not the usual one.  If it is very large compared
to that same behavior, just estimate the parameter and act
accordingly.  Unfortunately, the in-between part is rather
large, and the procedure to be used depends rather heavily
on the precise form of certain assumptions, which the user
might have great difficulty in making.
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