Hi: Your question was: "is there a way to count the contributions that a user has made *on behalf of* another particular user?" (my emphasis)
And: "It seems to me that the way to overcome this roadblock is to introduce a way of counting the contributions made by a person (say, a research student, or a colleague) *on behalf of* a Professor." (again, my emphasis) Which rather sounds like a proxy, by any definition of that term. I would be strongly against encouraging such practices. Take care Jon On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Jennifer Gristock <[email protected]> wrote: > > I too believe that the ideal approach is for academics to write about other > people's work: that is why my original question was about ways of > tracing/counting this. > > But if you're saying that a research student writing about other people 'a > work (plural, not singular ) is not advisable because they are somehow a > 'proxy', I must say I don't quite see it that way, but thank you for helping > me to see the multiple ways in which this could be construed. > > > Sent from my mobile > >> On 10 Jul 2014, at 18:21, Jon Beasley-Murray <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Jennifer: >> >> I would be very wary indeed of the model you're proposing, in which either >> individual researchers or their proxies insert their work into Wikipedia. >> We see enough of that already, and I would be concerned if there were any >> official (or even semi-official) encouragement of the practice. >> >> The issue is less conflict of interest (though that's true, too) as >> (self)promotion (which you seem to be actively encouraging) and undue weight. >> >> This is not to say that professors (academics, researchers) should not be >> writing in their areas of expertise. Of course they should! But perhaps a >> rule of thumb is that they should be writing about *other* people's work in >> that area, rather than their own. >> >> Take care >> >> Jon >> >>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Jennifer Gristock <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Greetings everyone. I'm still working on that system to encourage >>> university professors to contribute to Wikipedia, a system that is >>> concerned not through teaching, like the Education Programme, but through >>> research. >>> >>> I need some help. Can you tell me, in the Wikipedia API, is there a way to >>> count the contributions that a user has made on behalf of another >>> particular user? For example, a professor might ask a group of PhD students >>> to make contributions involving his/her research on various Wikipedia >>> pages, on his/her behalf. >>> >>> I have been frequently told (at the Teahouse and elsewhere) that Professors >>> are not allowed to contribute information about their own published >>> research papers on Wikipedia pages, because this would be biased. (Which is >>> rather a downer for the professor, because this means they are forbidden to >>> write about the things they are most passionate and knowledgeable about.) >>> >>> If this is rule is true, then it must certainly be seen as a roadblock to >>> academic engagement with Wikipedia. If it isn't, then it is editors' >>> perception of the rule as true (as I have experienced) that is the >>> roadblock. >>> >>> It seems to me that the way to overcome this roadblock is to introduce a >>> way of counting the contributions made by a person (say, a research >>> student, or a colleague) on behalf of a Professor. So at the end of the >>> year, the Professor can say 'my research contributed to X edits on >>> Wikipedia' as easily as each individual student (who might contribute on >>> behalf of many academic researchers) can count their individual edits. >>> >>> Can the API accommodate this in some way? Perhaps through some sort of >>> 'project' code or something? >>> >>> >>> Yours hopefully, >>> >>> Jenny Gristock (Open_Research) >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 9 Jul 2014, at 22:40, LiAnna Davis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all! >>>> >>>> I wanted to draw your attention to the Educator Training we'll be having >>>> as part of the Wikimania Pre-conference on August 7: >>>> >>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Pre-Conference/Educator_training >>>> >>>> The Educator Training is designed to give educators of all levels the >>>> knowledge they need to use Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects as a >>>> teaching tool in their classrooms. The training is open to educators from >>>> any country, and Wikipedia editing experience is not required. >>>> >>>> If you're interested in attending or you know someone who is, please see >>>> the page for more information. I especially encourage anyone who's thought >>>> about getting a Wikipedia Education Program going in your country to >>>> attend, as you'll learn a lot about the different kinds of assignments >>>> students could do. >>>> >>>> LiAnna >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> LiAnna Davis >>>> Head of Communications and External Relations >>>> Wiki Education Foundation >>>> +1-415-770-1061 >>>> www.wikiedu.org >>>> >>>> Please note my new email address and update your contacts accordingly: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Education mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Education mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Education mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
