OK, so no contributions under the direction of a senior. But rather, independent activity. Thank you for your help.
Sent from my mobile > On 10 Jul 2014, at 19:48, Jon Beasley-Murray <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi: > > Your question was: "is there a way to count the contributions that a user has > made *on behalf of* another particular user?" (my emphasis) > > And: "It seems to me that the way to overcome this roadblock is to introduce > a way of counting the contributions made by a person (say, a research > student, or a colleague) *on behalf of* a Professor." (again, my emphasis) > > Which rather sounds like a proxy, by any definition of that term. > > I would be strongly against encouraging such practices. > > Take care > > Jon > >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Jennifer Gristock <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I too believe that the ideal approach is for academics to write about other >> people's work: that is why my original question was about ways of >> tracing/counting this. >> >> But if you're saying that a research student writing about other people 'a >> work (plural, not singular ) is not advisable because they are somehow a >> 'proxy', I must say I don't quite see it that way, but thank you for helping >> me to see the multiple ways in which this could be construed. >> >> >> Sent from my mobile >> >>> On 10 Jul 2014, at 18:21, Jon Beasley-Murray <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jennifer: >>> >>> I would be very wary indeed of the model you're proposing, in which either >>> individual researchers or their proxies insert their work into Wikipedia. >>> We see enough of that already, and I would be concerned if there were any >>> official (or even semi-official) encouragement of the practice. >>> >>> The issue is less conflict of interest (though that's true, too) as >>> (self)promotion (which you seem to be actively encouraging) and undue >>> weight. >>> >>> This is not to say that professors (academics, researchers) should not be >>> writing in their areas of expertise. Of course they should! But perhaps a >>> rule of thumb is that they should be writing about *other* people's work in >>> that area, rather than their own. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> Jon >>> >>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Jennifer Gristock <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Greetings everyone. I'm still working on that system to encourage >>>> university professors to contribute to Wikipedia, a system that is >>>> concerned not through teaching, like the Education Programme, but through >>>> research. >>>> >>>> I need some help. Can you tell me, in the Wikipedia API, is there a way to >>>> count the contributions that a user has made on behalf of another >>>> particular user? For example, a professor might ask a group of PhD >>>> students to make contributions involving his/her research on various >>>> Wikipedia pages, on his/her behalf. >>>> >>>> I have been frequently told (at the Teahouse and elsewhere) that >>>> Professors are not allowed to contribute information about their own >>>> published research papers on Wikipedia pages, because this would be >>>> biased. (Which is rather a downer for the professor, because this means >>>> they are forbidden to write about the things they are most passionate and >>>> knowledgeable about.) >>>> >>>> If this is rule is true, then it must certainly be seen as a roadblock to >>>> academic engagement with Wikipedia. If it isn't, then it is editors' >>>> perception of the rule as true (as I have experienced) that is the >>>> roadblock. >>>> >>>> It seems to me that the way to overcome this roadblock is to introduce a >>>> way of counting the contributions made by a person (say, a research >>>> student, or a colleague) on behalf of a Professor. So at the end of the >>>> year, the Professor can say 'my research contributed to X edits on >>>> Wikipedia' as easily as each individual student (who might contribute on >>>> behalf of many academic researchers) can count their individual edits. >>>> >>>> Can the API accommodate this in some way? Perhaps through some sort of >>>> 'project' code or something? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yours hopefully, >>>> >>>> Jenny Gristock (Open_Research) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On 9 Jul 2014, at 22:40, LiAnna Davis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all! >>>>> >>>>> I wanted to draw your attention to the Educator Training we'll be having >>>>> as part of the Wikimania Pre-conference on August 7: >>>>> >>>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Pre-Conference/Educator_training >>>>> >>>>> The Educator Training is designed to give educators of all levels the >>>>> knowledge they need to use Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects as a >>>>> teaching tool in their classrooms. The training is open to educators from >>>>> any country, and Wikipedia editing experience is not required. >>>>> >>>>> If you're interested in attending or you know someone who is, please see >>>>> the page for more information. I especially encourage anyone who's >>>>> thought about getting a Wikipedia Education Program going in your country >>>>> to attend, as you'll learn a lot about the different kinds of assignments >>>>> students could do. >>>>> >>>>> LiAnna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> LiAnna Davis >>>>> Head of Communications and External Relations >>>>> Wiki Education Foundation >>>>> +1-415-770-1061 >>>>> www.wikiedu.org >>>>> >>>>> Please note my new email address and update your contacts accordingly: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Education mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Education mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Education mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Education mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
