Thinking a little more about this, I realize that the default *positioning* of the window isn't too big a deal for me, so long as it ends up somewhere on my monitor. :-)
I see at least two main educational roles for turtle graphics: coding and demonstrating. For coding, as you describe, it seems most coders will want a few neatly-tiled windows open at once. For demonstrations, one large window would probably be preferred. I don't think a single configuration will satisfy both uses, but if it is straightforward to programmatically set the size and position of the window, I think both groups can be satisfied. The bigger issue is making it movable ... if it's not movable then using it at the same time as the source editing window will be a pain. One other thing, which I believe might only be a Mac issue: the re-sizing widget on the Mac is a little triangle in the lower left corner of the window that cuts off a bit of the window. This is annoying on small windows, or when you want to display something like an image in the whole window visible (admittedly not too common in turtle graphics). I don't know if it is possible on the Mac to have a re-sizable window without this widget, but that would be ideal. This is just small point: I can certainly live with the re-sizing widget, and would certainly prefer the window be re-sizable. Toby On 3/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Toby, > > I can agree with you that having the turtle window appear in the middle > of the monitor can be aesthetically nicer default than having it appear > in the upper-left corner. This is certainly true when the window > appears as a standalone application. But does this happen often? I do > not thiink that turtle graphics is intended to be used for any kind of > standalone applications, it is obviously an educationla tool. > > Typically, my students open (1) a lab assignment to work on, (2) and an > interactive shell. Then they open a turtle window. They arrange those > THREE windows so that they can access the all of them at the same time. > Assuming that students do something more than just watching the turtle > window, it cannot stay in the middle of the screen. Normally, it goes > to some corner. At least with all students that I know. > > This is why a default window position towards the upper left corner > seems to me practically appealing and reasonable. > > I like to agree with people but today seems to be my day to disagree > :-( My apologi\y. Actually, I find all of your comment and suggestions > very interesting, and to me personally, very acceptable (except for the > default position of the window, but the window can be moved around, > after all). > > Atanas > > > > -- Dr. Toby Donaldson School of Computing Science Simon Fraser University (Surrey) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "edupython" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/edupython -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
