/me adds emphasis that this is all going to occur Slowwwwwly and patiently, starting off very small, with much testing, and many (steadily louder) requests for feedback on the test results.
@ James Salsman: Yes for thread links. No for Summary-namespace links. (per: > ... > * Conversion will create redirects for common LQT URLs, but not e.g. the > Summary namespace URLs. > ... On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:39 PM, S Page <[email protected]> wrote: > Summary: we'll convert some LiquidThreads conversations on mediawiki.org > into Flow boards on test2wiki. The real move off LQT depends on changing > how Flow pages are enabled, which has further dependencies. > > Danny Horn, Erik Bernhardson, quiddity, and I met to talk about next > steps in moving off LiquidThreads, which is deployed on 13 wikis. We will > eventually convert all their LQT pages and threads to Flow boards and > topics. > > There are inter-dependencies: > > We would need to enable Flow on 8 new wikis in order to convert all those > LQT pages. (We would probably leave wikimania2010wiki as is.) Our initial > focus will be mediawiki.org. > > Kill LQT on mediawiki.org means 1,500 pages become Flow boards > -> that's impractical to manage with the current PHP FlowOccupyPages > variable > So we need to replace it with a Special page to enable/disable Flow. > -> which depends on *Bug 49193* > <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49193> - "Add > ContentHandler columns to Wikimedia wikis, and set $wgContentHandlerUseDB = > true" > -> which hasn't completed and is blocked by bug 70901 > > We have a patch that replaces FlowOccupyPages with a bare-bones Special > page to change a page between wiki text and Flow board. Eventually enabling > Flow on a page is going to be a wiki administrative function, a big change > that's a win for decentralization and local decision-making. We would > restrict this Special page to Flow team on mediawiki.org at first, but > there would be pushback if we do this on other wikis. > > As Andrew Werdna suggested, the Special page would eventually handle the > conversion from an LQT page to Flow, and if you disable Flow it would > convert the Flow board into wikitext. Lots to do. > > > In the interim we are going to focus on the script that converts a LQT > page into a Flow board. We need to show this to people who will be > affected by the change from LQT to Flow. > > TODO: change current script to target a LQT page on mediawiki.org and > convert it into Flow boards and topics on test2wiki, without changing the > original. > (We'll write this conversion script so it can eventually be called from > the Special page to enable Flow.) > > We'll create a "Test Zero" LQT page with Flow team members participating, > and convert that. Then we'll convert a few actual LQT pages from mw.org > onto test2wiki. > > Notes on the conversion script: > * It'll produce weird results if run multiple times on the same LQT page. > * Not sure what happens to multiple thread edits. > * Conversion needs to add the converted Flow board and topics to the > watchlists of users wwho were watching the LQT page and threads. > * Conversion will create redirects for common LQT URLs, but not e.g. the > Summary namespace URLs. > * Conversion itself will not generate Echo notifications and e-mails > > > quiddity mentioned the following as likely concerns of LQT users after the > conversion to Flow: > * LQT TOC (we should have a nice Flow TOC soon!) > * Splitting and merging threads: > * Moving threads to a new Talk page. > * User-friendly Topic names, e.g. > Thread:Extension_talk:Flow/Appearance/reply_(6) becomes > Topic:Rylnpvcpshj9n30s#flow-post-rylnvqsqmjnng558 > > Project planning goes on in < > https://trello.com/c/0VP635yr/683-tracking-when-should-we-kill-lqt> and > related cards. > > > Cheers. > -- > =S Page Features engineer > > _______________________________________________ > EE mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > > -- Nick Wilson (Quiddity) Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation
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