Jon, does "very very very" mean that you have usability test results supporting your opinion?
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: > This is very very very exciting. I'm glad this is something you are doing. > Getting Flow in front of more people is going to make the product even > better! > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yey! >> >> Just to confirm, you have our fullest support in enabling Flow and >> convering all LQT threads to flow boards on se.wikimedia,org. We have >> already been talking to request that so we are really looking forward to it. >> >> >> *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* >> >> Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige <http://wikimedia.se> >> 0729 - 67 29 48 >> >> >> *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till >> mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* >> Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se> >> >> >> 2014-09-20 2:39 GMT+02:00 S Page <[email protected]>: >> >>> Summary: we'll convert some LiquidThreads conversations on mediawiki.org >>> into Flow boards on test2wiki. The real move off LQT depends on changing >>> how Flow pages are enabled, which has further dependencies. >>> >>> Danny Horn, Erik Bernhardson, quiddity, and I met to talk about next >>> steps in moving off LiquidThreads, which is deployed on 13 wikis. We will >>> eventually convert all their LQT pages and threads to Flow boards and >>> topics. >>> >>> There are inter-dependencies: >>> >>> We would need to enable Flow on 8 new wikis in order to convert all >>> those LQT pages. (We would probably leave wikimania2010wiki as is.) Our >>> initial focus will be mediawiki.org. >>> >>> Kill LQT on mediawiki.org means 1,500 pages become Flow boards >>> -> that's impractical to manage with the current PHP FlowOccupyPages >>> variable >>> So we need to replace it with a Special page to enable/disable Flow. >>> -> which depends on *Bug 49193* >>> <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49193> - "Add >>> ContentHandler columns to Wikimedia wikis, and set $wgContentHandlerUseDB = >>> true" >>> -> which hasn't completed and is blocked by bug 70901 >>> >>> We have a patch that replaces FlowOccupyPages with a bare-bones Special >>> page to change a page between wiki text and Flow board. Eventually enabling >>> Flow on a page is going to be a wiki administrative function, a big change >>> that's a win for decentralization and local decision-making. We would >>> restrict this Special page to Flow team on mediawiki.org at first, but >>> there would be pushback if we do this on other wikis. >>> >>> As Andrew Werdna suggested, the Special page would eventually handle the >>> conversion from an LQT page to Flow, and if you disable Flow it would >>> convert the Flow board into wikitext. Lots to do. >>> >>> >>> In the interim we are going to focus on the script that converts a LQT >>> page into a Flow board. We need to show this to people who will be >>> affected by the change from LQT to Flow. >>> >>> TODO: change current script to target a LQT page on mediawiki.org and >>> convert it into Flow boards and topics on test2wiki, without changing the >>> original. >>> (We'll write this conversion script so it can eventually be called from >>> the Special page to enable Flow.) >>> >>> We'll create a "Test Zero" LQT page with Flow team members >>> participating, and convert that. Then we'll convert a few actual LQT pages >>> from mw.org onto test2wiki. >>> >>> Notes on the conversion script: >>> * It'll produce weird results if run multiple times on the same LQT >>> page. >>> * Not sure what happens to multiple thread edits. >>> * Conversion needs to add the converted Flow board and topics to the >>> watchlists of users wwho were watching the LQT page and threads. >>> * Conversion will create redirects for common LQT URLs, but not e.g. the >>> Summary namespace URLs. >>> * Conversion itself will not generate Echo notifications and e-mails >>> >>> >>> quiddity mentioned the following as likely concerns of LQT users after >>> the conversion to Flow: >>> * LQT TOC (we should have a nice Flow TOC soon!) >>> * Splitting and merging threads: >>> * Moving threads to a new Talk page. >>> * User-friendly Topic names, e.g. >>> Thread:Extension_talk:Flow/Appearance/reply_(6) becomes >>> Topic:Rylnpvcpshj9n30s#flow-post-rylnvqsqmjnng558 >>> >>> Project planning goes on in < >>> https://trello.com/c/0VP635yr/683-tracking-when-should-we-kill-lqt> and >>> related cards. >>> >>> >>> Cheers. >>> -- >>> =S Page Features engineer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EE mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > EE mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > >
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