----- "Lee Marzke" <l...@marzke.net> wrote:

> >it runs on an OS that doesn’t support upstream updates,
> 
> Actually, I believe that updates are included in Enterprise
> Maintenance.

Yes, that's true.
 
> Endian's business model is similar to RHES and SLES.  if you need 
> updates , subscribe, and maybe with more subscriptions they can
> increase 
> their development staff.

There are alternative business models around that include updates, have a look 
at www.vyata.com - that has a free version that has an update repository 
available. The aim is to sell a value added product to your enterprise 
customers, I'd suggest.

It seems rather short sighted to me to limit the ability of the Open Source 
version to get updates. I like EFW, that's why I use it but the fact the 
current 2.3 release is way overdue and no communication about the delays might 
lead one to surmise that there's problems with the product.
 
> Lee
> 
> PS:
> http://www.endian.com/en/support/maintenance/
> [  Just as importantly, Endian maintenance includes all security
> updates 
> to every Endian application so that you can keep the devices
> protecting 
> your network safe from security vulnerabilities. ]

Yes, that's true but it doesn't apply to the Community version. Isn't the aim 
of a mixed OSS and Value Added product to encourage the take-up of the product 
and an active developer community? Both of those seem to be lacking for EFW, a 
few people post updates to the product but it's a tortuous process for a novice 
like me.

With a few notable exceptions, where is the community involvement in the 
project? Have a look at the Italian mailing list, they get even less responses 
than the English speaking one. 

Regards

Bill
> 
> 
> compdoc wrote:
> > Efw has a few problems that way - it’s a nice firewall, but it seems
> few ppl are working on it, it runs on an OS that doesn’t support
> upstream updates, and it's even difficult to know what OS it actually
> is in terms of wanting to install drivers or utils. 
> >
> > Guess that might make it more secure, but it seems difficult for
> some ppl. If it runs as-is on your hardware, and has everything you
> need, it’s great...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Pye [mailto:bill....@phoenix-systems.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:13 AM
> > To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Efw-user] RES: Any word on the EFW 2.3?
> >
> > ----- "Marco Aurélio" <maure...@spin.com.br> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> And is there any estimate date for the launch of version 2.3?
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > I guess that might depend on how long it takes to fix the last 31%
> of bugs listed on the roadmap: http://bugs.endian.it/roadmap_page.php
> which (to my intrained eye) seems to slowly keep growing. 
> >
> > Perhaps somone from Endian could chime in with a more definite
> timeline for completion of that release.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
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