I apologize, that these mail might bothering you but, as we have heard in many posts during this discussion egw is not only a developer community there are also users and some developers wich are not writing any code.
As Yerk and Ubertroll its my duty to comment this proposal. I try to do this as reasonable as possible without any personal accuses. Am 11.02.2008 um 13:22 schrieb Cornelius Weiss: > Hi devs, > > After a hard period (again) of flameing and fighting, we want to > make a proposal to solve the situation(s). > In our view the current state is the following: > - The majority of egw devs and users don't want to continue this > ugly flame war. > - On the other hand, also nobody wants to have the votes conny > proposed. > - No one wants to drop (not even lars or conny) egw 1.x > - Also a big majority don't want to drop Tine 2.0 out of the > egroupware.org project. > Sorry, but this is your personal opinion. I do not think the whole community has the same point of view ;) And I am not seeing those big majorities you mentioned. I see a big majority with is using egrouware and happy with the most application. No the big picture is to lets innovation taking place without frustrating the users. > So here is, what we propose: > - Lets have two emancipated codelines within the framework of the > egroupware.org project. > - Both activities share the same goal, to provide great > collaboration software based on free and open sources. > - If possible, both activities agree on common technical standards > and implement them in a compatible way > - Tine cares for smooth migration paths from egw to tine > - eGW 1.x (may) ports back new technologies from tine when they > where proven successfully there. > - Both activities decide on their own about new members, coding- > standards, and quality agreements. > - On both web-sites, we'll link each other in a friendly way, e.g. > by aggregating the news feed of the other page. > So Tine ist not a proposal for the future codeline of egroupware? You are talking about coexistence? Are you correcting your statement made to the press with a new one? Because google never forgets! But what you are mentioned above is in my understanding a fork, isn't it? > We propose to freeze this state for about half a year, before we > continue to discuss about project politics. Hopefully then in a kind > and friendly manner. > I have nothing to say, I am only a "blood sucking ubertroll" but this sounds good for me. > We feel, that continuing the discussions don't lead to any valuable > result. So this is our last attempt. If it fails we will take the > Tine effort out of the egroupware.org project. > You know that was my intension. But I think you are able to apologize yourself - you did half a way with this proposal. But it is still my intension (if I had something to say) that consequences has taken place for breaking rules. But fortunately I have nothing to decide. So, sorry for take you some time but mostly I started the flamewar to get some others into gears and from my point of view this could be a an agree on a ceasefire. I excuse myself for some words I have written but as the time they where written they were the right words (from my point of view). Regards Lutz (mainly yerk and ubertroll) > cu > Lars, Thomas, Matthias and Conny > <tine_egw_relation> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > eGroupWare-core mailing list > eGroupWare-core@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-core ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ eGroupWare-core mailing list eGroupWare-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-core
